Which family sized Diesel cars do not have DPF filter?

forgotmyname

Any car will be suitable for town and city driving.

From a 1Litre little hatchback to a 7Litre supercar. They will both allow you to drive around town and both will do 70mph on the motorway.

Again your just making a simple choice much harder. Stop overthinking. You like the look of a car then buy it.

I have a 2L turbo diesel yet it covers lots and lots of short heavy traffic type journeys.
Worst type for a diesel. Yet 6 monthly oil changes and a good service every 12 months has ensured it stays reliable.

Every now and then it gets a good blast up the bypass to blow the cobwebs away.

Buy one with a DPF and do that weekly and your sorted. Problem over.


Lots of petrol cars also have a DMF. But they dont have the torque of the diesel so last much much longer.
My old petrol one had 150,000 on the clock on the original clutch and DMF. No noises from either.

My current car had a new clutch and DMF about a year before i bought it.

Way less that 150,000 miles.

onomatopoeia99

bery_451 wrote: »

My requirements are that Im after a car that is capable for both the motorway and city.

I struggle to think of a volume production car made since the 1960s that wouldn't be capable on the motorway and in town.

You'd really have to look hard to find a car that didn't meet those requirements.

jimjames

bery_451 wrote: »

What about Toyota Avensis last generation (03-09) do they have DPF's?


Also the Ford Mondeo from 07 onwards do they also have DPF's?


Just hear horror stories about DPF's being clogged up and damaging the engine for city mileage drivers.


No problems for company car motorway mileage drivers though.


These cars are as classed as family cars not as company driver cars that are on the motorway most of the time. I don't assume the average family of 2 adults and 3 teenagers go on the motorway everyday.

VW Passat B6 before 2008 don't have them. Nor do MK4 VW Golf

pinkteapot

DPFs really don't clog up as quickly as the scare stories suggest. So long as you're doing an hour at a decent speed on the motorway every few weeks, you'll be fine.

We've got a 2010 Mondeo. Our mileage has dwindled since getting it so we probably will change it in the next couple of years, but we've never had any mechanical problems or wear noted on services.

There was a story about a DPF clog-up on Watchdog a few years back but it was someone who bought a new car and then only used it in town for ten months!

We went for diesel rather than petrol, even though our mileage when we got it was slightly under that recommended for diesel (financially), because the diesel engines got better reviews and there was more choice. It felt like Ford had thrown a token petrol engine into the range in case anyone wanted it. Plus we bought the car at one year old and there were only a few available locally to choose from.

I do recommend the Mondeo in general - it's extremely comfortable for long motorway runs. Around town I prefer something nippier off the line and smaller to park, I do have to say!

OddballJamie

pinkteapot wrote: »

DPFs really don't clog up as quickly as the scare stories suggest. So long as you're doing an hour at a decent speed on the motorway every few weeks, you'll be fine.

We've got a 2010 Mondeo. Our mileage has dwindled since getting it so we probably will change it in the next couple of years, but we've never had any mechanical problems or wear noted on services.

There was a story about a DPF clog-up on Watchdog a few years back but it was someone who bought a new car and then only used it in town for ten months!

We went for diesel rather than petrol, even though our mileage when we got it was slightly under that recommended for diesel (financially), because the diesel engines got better reviews and there was more choice. It felt like Ford had thrown a token petrol engine into the range in case anyone wanted it. Plus we bought the car at one year old and there were only a few available locally to choose from.

I do recommend the Mondeo in general - it's extremely comfortable for long motorway runs. Around town I prefer something nippier off the line and smaller to park, I do have to say!

It's not unheard of for DPFs to clog quickly, there's been a couple of recent posts on here of it happening.
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5073293
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5027655

The HDI I used to have deteriorated rapidly when I moved closer to work, must of been a space of less than two months when faults started appearing. I was still doing occasional longer trips then too.

Unless people are doing the right type of mileage it's best to avoid DPFs entirely. Just a ticking time bomb and once they start you can't even shift them on the next sucker without paying out for a fix first.

darkmatter101

The OP has been asked several times what his yearly mileage and requirements are and he isn't providing an answer. This is just another case of him asking questions and not taking in any of the advice

Shielder

I had a 2004 D4-D Avensis and put 30k on it in less than 6 months. The EGR valve died then. The car had done 99,000 miles.

It was the only thing that went wrong with it in that time though. I eventually put 70k on it in 12 months.

Got a 2014 Avensis now, and the manual doesn't say anything about DPF or driving style or any sort of jiggery pokery in the exhaust system. Not to say that it hasn't got a DPF, just that I can't see any reference to it in the 1.5" thick manual (it's got lots of pictures )

Andy

Trebor16

Strider590 wrote: »

Diesel cars are not the way forward, sensible folk should sell them off to the idiots out there and never buy another diesel again.

IMO

Strider590. Spouting total rubbish on MSE since November 2008!

Turn_to_Grey

Back to the original question. Nissan Qashqai with Euro 4 engine = No DPF, changed over in 2010 to Euro 5 engine ( with DPF )

darkmatter101

OP you want a car that does not have a DFP? Looks like you won't do many miles, so go for an older e36 or e46 M3. Bullet proof engines and DPF