Which family sized Diesel cars do not have DPF filter?

OddballJamie

Herzlos wrote: »

I didn't know Toyota Corollas came with a 2.0 TDI. Which model?

Toyota Corolla 2.0 TDi BS Edition - You smell it coming.

bery_451

So it looks like i gotta look out for DMF on petrol cars as well? Why do petrol cars have DMF? Do all petrol cars have DMF?

Herzlos

I thought a DMF was predominantly a diesel thing, because of the heavier clutch.

What are your actual budget & requirements? If you're avoiding all sorts of acronyms because of horror stories you're going to have a pretty hard time of it.

wba31

JustinR1979 wrote: »

Brothers E46 330d is mapped and sounds great, like a jet fighter; nice 6 pot sound and turbo.
Took mate out in this and his 335i - mate was giggling in the Diesel, in the petrol he was underwhelmed.
Just keeps saying how stupidly quick it is, and he's had a couple cossies.
He's now looking for an E46 330d.....
The diesel is much more fun to drive, and effortless, and much better round town and for overtaking.

On a practical note i looked at the 3 series estate when i last changed cars and i would estimate there is as much room in the back of my wife's Jazz as there was the 3 series for passengers... after all the hunting and being talked out of a Superb estate we went for the Civic... granted probably not as fun to drive... but if it was too much fun i might not keep my licence for long...

bery_451

My requirements are that Im after a car that is capable for both the motorway and city. I cant believe Im saying this in 2014 when we suppose to have flying cars back in 2000 lol.

OddballJamie

bery_451 wrote: »

My requirements are that Im after a car that is capable for both the motorway and city. I cant believe Im saying this in 2014 when we suppose to have flying cars back in 2000 lol.

You can get a flying car if you have the money.

What's your budget for the family car and yearly mileage?

Strider590

forgotmyname wrote: »

You should be worried. £500 for a brand new fuel injector or £150 for a reconditioned one. And you may need 4 of them.

High pressure fuel pump anywhere from £300 - £3000.

Dual mass flywheel and clutch replacement £800 - £2000.

Fuel injector for a petrol engine will be a fraction of those prices. Maybe even replace all 4 with new ones for less than one reconditioned diesel one.

No need for the high pressure pump on a petrol the normal pumps are quite cheap.

Even if the petrol model has a DMF it will far outlive the diesel one.

Diesel will be heavier and wear the front tyres faster also.

Its not clear cut on which car is cheaper to run. When you look at repair and servicing costs.

Lets not forget the next thing that'll hit Diesel cars....

DEF or Diesel Exhaust Fluid. A tank of urea+water which is pushed into the exhaust system to tackle nitrogen oxides.
Soon you'll have DPF and DEF/SCR, with DEF being quite an expensive consumable.

Basically just something else to go wrong and seeing as it's primarily de-ionised water, it'll quickly form carbonic acid, which will in turn accelerate the rusting of your exhaust system.

Diesel cars are not the way forward, sensible folk should sell them off to the idiots out there and never buy another diesel again.

IMO

nidO

bery_451 wrote: »

My requirements are that Im after a car that is capable for both the motorway and city. I cant believe Im saying this in 2014 when we suppose to have flying cars back in 2000 lol.

You're only saying this because you want to, not because you have to.

You want a car that is capable of both motorway and city driving? Fine. Buy any car you like, as long as its less than maybe 50 years old.
They can all handle motorways and city driving fine, if you're narrowing it down any more than that it's your choice to, and if you want any actual advice on how best to narrow it down, you need to answer the questions you're so studiously avoiding at the moment.

Obviously someone has told you "DPF's are expensive to repair/replace if they go wrong" so fine, you believe that and want to take it as gospel but as has been mentioned in most posts on this thread, diesels tend to be aimed at high mileage drivers and it's people who aren't and buy diesels who tend to run into DPF problems.
So, if what you really mean by your question is "I don't do huge miles and want a car that's cheaper to maintain" fine, buy a petrol.

Herzlos

bery_451 wrote: »

My requirements are that Im after a car that is capable for both the motorway and city. I cant believe Im saying this in 2014 when we suppose to have flying cars back in 2000 lol.

That really doesn't narrow it down any. But to be fair any car that runs is capable of city and motorway driving.

Are you mostly city / mostly motorway?
How many miles a year do you think you'll do? (how far away is your work?)
What's your budget?
How much space do you need?

Gloomendoom

nidO wrote: »

You're only saying this because you want to, not because you have to.

You want a car that is capable of both motorway and city driving? Fine. Buy any car you like, as long as its less than maybe 50 years old.

I have a car that is over 50 years old and it is quite capable of both motorway and city driving.