Tv License Refund

SW17

Deleted_User wrote: »

Yes if other people want to pay for it, let them.
We gave up our tvl and sky a few months ago and just watched catch up and YouTube etc but now we watch very little catch up maybe 3 or 4 hours a week and we have 3 kids. I can see a time when we won't bother with any catch up at all. Anything we really want, we'll just get the DVD (amazon market place can be VERY cheap for used ones). The amount of time we have for doing all those jobs around the house have been put off because of 'too busy' are now being done.
And the extra time and attention we give to the kids is priceless... Its like the olden days, kids playing with toys, drawing and reading and stuff.

Those who don't want to consume BBC content have economic credibility in not wishing to pay the licence fee. Those who want to consume it, but not pay for it, do not, as eventually there would be insufficient funds to produce content. It is only possible to watch BBC catch-up free because of a loophole in outdated legislation, it's not sustainable if too many people did it.

anna2007

SW17 wrote: »

So basically you want to watch the BBC as it produces your favourite programmes, you just think others should pay for it on your behalf?

No, because none of my favourite programmes are produced by the BBC.

How can others be paying for it on my behalf if I'm not required to pay it?

SW17 wrote: »

It is only possible to watch BBC catch-up free because of a loophole in outdated legislation, it's not sustainable if too many people did it.

It's the BBC that's outdated and unsustainable in its current form. It's not a 'loophole' either, how do you propose they legislate for the growing number of people who use streaming services/catch up TV? They can't, which is why the BBC is unsustainable.

RingKing

anna2007 wrote: »

No, because none of my favourite programmes are produced by the BBC.

How can others be paying for it on my behalf if I'm not required to pay it?


It's the BBC that's outdated and unsustainable in its current form. It's not a 'loophole' either, how do you propose they legislate for the growing number of people who use streaming services/catch up TV? They can't, which is why the BBC is unsustainable.

I think it is a loophole and one that will be sorted out before the bbc becomes unsustainable. I work closely with the iplayer teams and they do have a solution to this loophole.

anna2007

RingKing wrote: »

I think it is a loophole and one that will be sorted out before the bbc becomes unsustainable. I work closely with the iplayer teams and they do have a solution to this loophole.

I take it you mean a solution for iplayer only?

I rarely watch BBC now, so can live without iplayer.

RingKing

anna2007 wrote: »

I take it you mean a solution for iplayer only?

I rarely watch BBC now, so can live without iplayer.

I only know about the solution for iplayer but I would guess Itv player, 4OD etc would have different solutions

SW17

anna2007 wrote: »

No, because none of my favourite programmes are produced by the BBC.

How can others be paying for it on my behalf if I'm not required to pay it?

It wasn't exactly clear from your post that you don't watch iPlayer, and as you can see from my response above to Deleted_User, there is economic credibility in not wishing to pay the licence fee if you consume no BBC content. If you do consume any BBC TV content via iPlayer or other catch-up, then by definition others are paying for it on your behalf.

anna2007 wrote: »

It's the BBC that's outdated and unsustainable in its current form. It's not a 'loophole' either, how do you propose they legislate for the growing number of people who use streaming services/catch up TV? They can't, which is why the BBC is unsustainable.

Whether the BBC is outdated is a philosophical argument, not an economic one. Of course it's a loophole, the law was created before catch-up was invented, so it was framed to deal with how people could access the BBC at the time. If the funding model and technical means to access the content needs to change in order to produce the requisite funding to produce it, a way can be found, as RingKing appears to indicate.

I wonder if all of those who are currently willing to go to catch-up only to avoid the licence fee would do so if it meant paying for BBC content?

[Deleted User]

SW17 wrote: »

wonder if all of those who are currently willing to go to catch-up only to avoid the licence fee would do so if it meant paying for BBC content?

I just wouldn't bother with any catch up. I think you are correct though about closing the loophole maybe have advertising for funding the iPlayer.

talktalktobt

I personally think that it is about time the BBC (and all other TV companies) encrypt their broadcasts. People who want it should pay, and those who don't should get access to nothing they don't pay for - be it catch-up, live or online.

[Deleted User]

RingKing wrote: »

If you don't need one you got nothing to worry about

Tell that to Michael Shakespeare, and the victims of Oluwagbenga Olaniyan.

RingKing

Bedsit_Bob wrote: »

Tell that to Michael Shakespeare, and the victims of Oluwagbenga Olaniyan.

No matter what company how much you background check employees before they are hired you don't know how they will act with the general public. The BBC has hired less then favourable people just like any other large organisation.