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Lodger wants to move there partner in?

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  • Hedgehog99
    Hedgehog99 Posts: 1,425 Forumite
    No way. They are taking advantage of you big time. If they had wanted to appear "ideal tenants", they'd have mended their ways before asking for him to move in officially.

    Key-sharing is a massive no-no and a betrayal of trust.

    The other thought is that out there, there'll be a single person who would appreciate a room & who can't afford their own flat - whereas a couple should find it easier to get their own place. You could say "Get a room", but it sounds like they've already taken over your place. Get rid.
  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
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    On the finances, think what the costs would be if they were renting a full 2bed flat less the cost of a lodger(you) see how that compares with the 1.5 lodger rate.
  • asoe209
    asoe209 Posts: 362 Forumite
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    They are all very good and valid points thatI have taken on board.

    He does work, so I don’t think him comingwhen no one is there happens often, but It will be fair to say I don’t know howoften it has happened. I know of twice. Once when I was off and once when incame up in general chit chat. I happened to be away for the weekend on thatone.

    I personally think it would be un fare o saynot to use the living room. So that’s not something I would do to any person. ButI guess they should sort realise that there is to of them and if they are homeall the time in the evening the may be they can switch room time to time.

    I do almost feel like im going to come acrossas a parent and that’s something I don’t want to do. I just don’t want tocreate tension with in the home.

    As its stands nothing can go any furtheruntil things are spoken through either way this includes her current tenancy. Icannot continue with how things are.

    As mentioned I don’t think an thing isintentional. It’s just a case of not knowing my fault in a sense of not saying anythingsooner. If there both are not aware they just believe its ok.

    Im more mugging myself for not talking andsweeping my issues under the carpet.
  • Short checklist of things to cover:

    1. No, he may not move in. The flat is too small for three.
    2. Overnights need to be limited to 3 per week, or a contribution will be expected for the extra bills. Stick to this.
    3. Cleaning and household chores are going to be split and kept up.
    4. The bf is not welcome to hang about there without her, at the very least without checking with you first. It is your home, and he is not a resident in it. What if you had plans that involved a peaceful relaxing day at home and he turns up to 'chill'? Respectful consideration on this one.

    Don't have the chat with him there. Refuse to. He is not your lodger, and you don't have to be in a position where you feel 'ganged up' on. If she refuses and insists he is there, quietly point out that if she is going to demand that they do this when he is not a resident, you are unhappy about how she might behave when he is.

    She has two choices. She can stay alone or go live with him.
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  • LEJC
    LEJC Posts: 9,618 Forumite
    edited 18 November 2014 at 5:35PM
    Throwing something else into the mix to consider...


    In charging additional rent to the second lodger,will you be exceeding the tax free amount you can claim...


    Please read up on tax and lodgers before you make a final decision...again having 1 might keep you beneath the threashold for paying tax on the income but I would doubt its the same for 2
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  • asoe209 wrote: »
    . . .
    All bills included in current rent im on key and card. If it runs out or low I top it up.with winter coming noticing the change in gas already on average were doing about £12 a week on electric gas im not sure yet but I know £10 is being used every few days. council tax price will change and that about it

    Taking in a second lodger wouldn't change council tax you pay. Were you thinking you would charge a couple more for this?
  • Lokolo
    Lokolo Posts: 20,861 Forumite
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    Taking in a second lodger wouldn't change council tax you pay. Were you thinking you would charge a couple more for this?

    Devils advocate.

    If one person in the household isn't liable there would be single persons discount. Adding an additional person would remove this discount.
  • Suggest they find a place together if they are ready to take the next step of living together but be firm that your place is too small and you have been starting to feel that for a while.
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  • LEJC
    LEJC Posts: 9,618 Forumite
    How formal is your lodgers rental agreement with you.....1 lodger on an informal arrangement is bad enough but 2 and you are asking for problems...


    Your posts seem unclear about a formal agreement between your first lodger and yourself so are we right to assume that perhaps there is no such document????
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  • asoe209
    asoe209 Posts: 362 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker

    Morning All.

    To answer a few question and update.

    There is a lodgers agreement in place, but I have been verylaid back to this until this point I believe I does state that partners areallowed but any more than 3 days a week is deemed as living there.

    He came round last night wanting to have a chat about mylodger as he said she was feeling worried about a few things which I was unaware of. Turns out I think she was more nervous about asking. I got a bit moreinsigt to into what was going on, basically it seems that she is now in aposition she can cover her rent but just leaves her hard up during the month,by how much I don’t know. of course I said do you not think she should be heretalking about this or better yet her talk to me about it. either way I usedthis time to ask him my questions I told him my initial thoughts about it.

    i.e. what was you both thinking about the rent (staying thesame increasing he knew it would go up but he though only by like £50 beingwhat he thought may be the increase in bills

    was this a long term idea or if you are planning to bothmove out. His views on guests coming over.

    Hes general response was he thinks living wise it will bethe same as it is now. But that’s just on there side of course lol. I exsplainedthat in theory it’s a good idea for them and I see the reasons why but at theend of the day I need to consider me not feeling like a guest in my home.

    Which he understands and he did agree with, he does ge theidea as e said a few times that he would not want that and is ok with whateverthe outcome is.

    I let if with me saying I will talk to both of you on Sundayin regards to other issues this will be the housekeeping and the staying over. Thisis where the agreements will be pulled back out gone over.
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