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Lodger wants to move there partner in?

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  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
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    edited 18 November 2014 at 12:43PM
    asoe209 wrote: »
    How oftenare they staying now?

    Well thisstarted small ad got more frequent as time went on its safe to say on averagethe partner will be there form Friday to Sunday, and prob at least 1-2 eveninga week. as mentioned she the lodger started a 2nd part time jobwhich seems to be evenings.

    I had oneday off work a week or so ago, I returned from the shops to find he was thereand the she had given him her key so he could chill there, I don’t know if thishappens often.

    He has moved in allready.

    Him staying while she is not there is a big no no while he is not official.

    Does he work if hanging round your house during the day.

    You need a decent set of house rules as you have been meaning to have a chat.

    I would have the chat and untill all issues are resolved he can stop coming round so much and definately not when she is not there.
  • I think it's very cheeky of them to expect he can move in with no extra cost. The idea of increasing the rent by half seems fair, but even if he doesn't move in officially I would expect some financial contribution to cover the time he spends there.
  • sulphate
    sulphate Posts: 1,235 Forumite
    If you do agree make sure that you do put the rent up as already covered by other posters, as the gas/electric etc will almost definitely increase.

    I personally wouldn't agree to it. I think I would end up feeling like the lodger in a couple's home.
  • PasturesNew
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    I'd say no, no, no, no, no.
    The dynamics will change. Couples are a different beast to singles and you might find they swamp you, take over the space, make you feel uncomfortable in your own home as they're all coupley and loved up....

    Just say "no" - they need to move into a house share where the original intention is to rent to couples. It's easier to say no now, rather than later when they turn out to be super-annoying and taking over.

    You can also expect that, as a couple, they'll start inviting their mates over.... you'll end up hiding in your own bedroom, or unable to choose what's on the telly as they're snuggled up and already watching something else. Or you'll turn up home, tired, from a day's work, to find 3-4 strangers sitting at the table and they've invited friends/family round to dinner.
  • Obviously, no idea what the benefit arrangement is you mention in your first post but do they know how the benefits either party receives will be affected if the partner moves in and they co-habit? This could affect their finances even more. I know when my ex moved in, (he was unemployed), the income support went up by £40.., and he cost a lot more lol.., I found it very difficult to manage. Living together as a couple very rarely means gaining on the financial side of things as far as benefits are concerned. If they do it without declaring the situation to benefits, it could easily mean the benefits suddenly disappear altogether when they are found out.
  • rpc
    rpc Posts: 2,353 Forumite
    You'll be the gooseberry in your own home. I cannot see this being a pleasant experience for you.

    Your lodger should not be issuing keys to anyone and I wouldn't think it appropriate to have an overnight visitor 3-4 times per week.

    Personally, I'd be inclined to evict the lodger. Not over the request, but over behaviour so far. Issuing keys to third parties without telling your landlord is a massive red flag. For that alone, I would either get rid or put them on a final warning (the "leave the toilet seat up and you are out" kind of warning).

    If they stay, you need some house rules.
  • SailorSam
    SailorSam Posts: 22,754 Forumite
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    I've got plenty of room but wouldn't even like one lodger. But definitely not two in a small flat.
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  • Cheeky_Monkey
    Cheeky_Monkey Posts: 2,072 Forumite
    edited 18 November 2014 at 1:20PM
    For me, it would be a definite NO!!

    I currently have 2 lodgers, one in each room and it's working ok but I definitely would not have a couple. The dynamics would be completely different and I would feel outnumbered in my own home.

    To be honest, I think they're already taking you for a mug and if one of my lodgers gave their key to a partner so that they could be in my home alone, they'd be out on there ear tout suite!!
  • I would give the lodger a weeks notice, rents have risen sharply this last quarter and you could get a lot more rent now for the same room.
    Giving strangers keys, that to me is a very serious security risk.
    Out ! and get the locks changed.
    New add with new rent !
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  • moneyistooshorttomention
    moneyistooshorttomention Posts: 17,940 Forumite
    edited 18 November 2014 at 1:56PM
    katejo wrote: »
    The answer from me would be No. When I advertise, I make it clear that the room is for 1 person. It isn't big enough for 2. The rent including gas/electricity etc. is priced for one person. Also I would feel as though I were playing gooseberry in my own house. Imagine arriving back in the evening and seeing them having a kiss and cuddle (or more) on the sofa. My lodgers can have a friend/partner to stay over occasionally but not to move in.

    That would be my attitude too.

    The relationship dynamic will definitely change and it could come over as "2 against 1" in your own home.

    If it was a couple or family renting, then it might be different and just charge some extra rent to allow for the extra costs/extra body in the place but for a single person then I just wouldn't do it.

    If one of them decides on something they want then chances are that the other one will "gang up" with them and back them, even if they are in the wrong and it would be 2 against 1.

    Nope...keep it as 1 landlord/landlady and 1 tenant and then its 1 to 1 and the landlord/lady has the "casting vote" because they are the home-owner.

    EDIT: I've had lodgers before...so do know what it feels like. I also recall a (male) friend of mine that regarded taking in several lodgers at a time in his home as one of his "income streams" on a regular basis. However, I do remember him commenting to me at one point about a mother who had taken it into her head to invite her daughter to "shack up" with her within his house and how it brought extra pressure to bear on the whole house. I recall one of his gripes was how some furniture got ejected from the room and put in the rest of the house and I told him I thought that was a "blimmin' cheek", as they were only renting the room and share in kitchen and bathroom facilities. That was mother and daughter. I can only imagine what a couple would feel like.....
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