FOR LAND REGISTRY REP please

G_M

moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

LAND REGISTRY REP

Is there anyone from LR online?

errrrrrr.... clearly not. They are pretty helpful so I can't imagine the LR rep is reading this, chuckling to himself, and saying "I think I'll just ignore this one."

Doozergirl

G_M wrote: »

errrrrrr.... clearly not. They are pretty helpful so I can't imagine the LR rep is reading this, chuckling to himself, and saying "I think I'll just ignore this one."

So tempted to ask if you're sure

Land_Registry

Good Morning and sorry for such a delayed response - we are here but not 'chuckling' re the thread though.
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In short there is nothing else to do from a registration perspective other than what you have already done, namely contacted us with your view/thoughts.

Although by the sound of it you have not made a formal application to either register your ownership (you mentioned the land is unregistered) or to amend an existing title to include the additional land your enquiry should receive a response fairly quickly.

The registration aspect is of course only one aspect of trying to 'protect your ownership' and I would recommend seeking legal advice as to what legal recourse might be available as well such as eviction or other action leading to the removal of anyone from your land.

The land register records legal ownership but we are not an enforcement agency so it is important to understand what rights you have and how to enforce them - that is where the legal advice would come into play.

moneyistooshorttomention

Thank you.

I am in process of having my Title corrected.

What is the best way to proceed with this please? and is there a charge for it (wondering how much if so?).

Land_Registry

moneyistooshorttomention - in your OP you mentioned contacting us only but now state that you are in the process of having the title corrected. Has your enquiry been treated as an actual application then?

If not then I would simply wait for a response from the office dealing with the matter and they should advise on next steps.

An application to correct the register would not normally attract a fee but if you are asked to apply for first registration then I suspect a £40 fee would be payable.

However do wait for their reply.

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silvercar

Sounds like moneyistoshorttomention is trying to register the land at the same time as the neighbour pursing adverse possession, will Land Registry automatically realise that the piece of land is the same in both cases?

moneyistooshorttomention

I think it may be "technicalities" of this might involve me applying for "First Registration".

Not sure whether what I need to do is apply to amend Title (to include that bit of land that is mine, but isn't on the Title) or First Registration.

I gather that amending my Title means a form AP1 to be completed by me.

Presumably there is a form to fill in for First Registration. What is the title/number of this form please? I presume I can just ring an LR office and ask for it?

Which do you think is the more likely procedure I need to follow here? I am beginning to think it might be First Registration.

I think my neighbour might be after First Registration? If this is the case, then I presume the LR will judge both our applications to see who is the "true owner"?

Land_Registry

Form FR1 for first registration

The devil is always in the detail silvercar but if the land is identified in the same or similar way then I would like to think we would realise it was one and the same.

In the absence of any claim/registration supported by deeds then I would assume that the applicant would use current Ordnance Survey detail which in turn would make the realisation that they were one and the same quite clear.

For the OP the issue is whether you are claiming the land should have been included in your title in the first place or whether you are now seeking to claim it through some other means. In the former case I would probably expect you to apply using form AP1 and in the latter form FR1.

moneyistooshorttomention

Land_Registry_representative wrote: »

Form FR1 for first registration

The devil is always in the detail silvercar but if the land is identified in the same or similar way then I would like to think we would realise it was one and the same.

In the absence of any claim/registration supported by deeds then I would assume that the applicant would use current Ordnance Survey detail which in turn would make the realisation that they were one and the same quite clear.

For the OP the issue is whether you are claiming the land should have been included in your title in the first place or whether you are now seeking to claim it through some other means. In the former case I would probably expect you to apply using form AP1 and in the latter form FR1.

1. By "current OS detail" - would this mean me submitting relevant section of OS map of the location?

2."claiming through some other means" presumably means trying to steal it by "adverse possession"? Are there "other means" to try and claim land besides the rightful owner having it put on their title on the one hand (with form AP1) or the other person trying to use "adverse possession" to get it on the other hand?

Whereas, the rightful owner (ie myself) would submit a form AP1?