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moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

Administrative query for Land Registry rep.

= I was reading today that these things can take a while to resolve.

So, in view of the age of the person concerned that is trying to claim my land, what actually happens to their claim if they reach the end of their allotted lifespan in the course of this? - ie if they die whilst their claim is still being processed.

Does their claim cease with them? or would it continue "in their absence" and be deemed to be being continued by their "estate" (or the next owner of the squatters house could just pick up the claim where this squatter left off)?

This because they are so old that I don't quite understand why they are actually doing this, as they are (to use my mothers words) "in Gods waiting room".

NB; I'm talking about the official claim itself, rather than any continuous length of "tenure" of my land by a squatter. I know that if the next owner of this squatters house was also that sort of person and decided to try this too then they would look to add the time this squatter has been on my land onto their own to try and extend the length of time they could be said to have done so - but my question is that I would imagine the actual official claim by current squatter would cease if that person ceased (ie died). So if a replacement squatter also tried to steal my land, they would have to start up a whole new claim for themselves and start the form-filling etc all over again from Square 1?

I imagine as you say the executors would continue the process as this could be something of value and part of the estate.

I don't think bumping off your neighbour is going to resolve this!

moneyistooshorttomention

This is what I'm asking, ie:

1. could her executors continue the process on her behalf if they wished to do so or would they have to "start afresh" (because they are different person/people to her)?

2. would any subsequent owner of her house be able to continue "her" claim for my land if they turned out to be the same sort of person and wanted to try this too OR would they have to "start afresh"?

Basically, is this exact particular claim restricted to her only or would executor be able to continue it in her name OR would next owner be able to continue it (or have to start up their own claim if they were wanting to do so)?

I imagine her claim is personal to her as an individual and not a claim the "house" is making iyswim.

(NB; As regards the executors wishing to "add value" to her house by trying to add a bit of my land into what they are selling = my bit of land, of itself, wouldn't affect the value of her house). She's not trying to steal it from me because she thinks her house would be worth more with it. I could understand her thinking on this more if she was thinking "Ooh..if I manage to steal money's bit of garden my house would be worth £10k more", but that's not the case. There would only be the negative effect on her house of the relationship between the owner (whoever it was) and myself unless/until I get my land back.

moneyistooshorttomention

bumping.............

DaftyDuck

I've been away, so only following this saga lightly over the last few weeks...

Money, you are not going to get a happy outcome from this - whatever the outcome is - unless you recognise that you are just as stroppy/unreasonable/difficult as your neighbour... and even if you aren't (as if.. ), that's how they'll perceive you.

You keep referring to "your land".... it isn't, not least because it isn't registered to you. It isn't "stealing" either, not least because it's not currently got an ascribed owner. Your ghastly-near-death-vindictive-miserable-old-interfering-biddy-next-door quite probably views you in just the same light as you view her, and equally wishes you'd take a tumble off a stepladder and break your neck.

None of us can know the exact facts, or the layout of your teeny tiny bit of land that caused the original dispute that appears to be now blossoming out of control, as several of us predicted about three threads/five months ago.

If a mistake was made on your title plan, as you say in post #16, who made the mistake? If it was your conveyancing solicitor, and they did indeed make a mistake, I suspect they will fix it for free, or at nominal charge. What kind of "mistake" was actually made?

If the land was not included on your title plan at purchase, by what right do you believe you have any valid claim to the land? The fact that it might "straighten a border" or some-such is often not as clear as an owner would believe. I own an odd strip of land that almost encircles another property, an odd residual from the original access. Neither I, or the other owner have bothered to work out the exact boundary; he cares for much of it, I for some. I still retain my rights over it, and it may well puzzle either future owner how we've arrived at the borders.

There are only two ways to deal with neighbour border disputes in my opinion.

One is the sensible chat route, where you arm yourself with incontrovertible proof that the land in question is yours, and hope things don't progress as far as your ever needing it. In this case, you certainly don't have such proof, and are obviously way past/not able to deal with this in a friendly manner.

The other is to use a solicitor, again only if you are certain and clear of your position, and have a simple, short and cost-determined go at resolving the issue. You say shortage of cash prevents this. If your conveyancing solicitor did, indeed,make a mistake, I'm sure he'd be delighted to fix the issue rather than face the risk of later action by you against him.




I note I posted this on your thread back in September

What you have failed to realise is it is different there. You are steadily working what was a stable neighbour boundary into a dispute. You have created this dispute, and can't even recognise that. I very much doubt this is clearly your land, either legally, or in other people's minds, so you are pretty much headed up the mutual destruction warpath carrying on the way you do.

Local land for local people springs to mind.......


I doubt the old dear next door cares, as you once pointed out so delightfully that she would soon leave in her coffin.

I think you have far more to lose than you realise.

I also note you stated, in even earlier threads going back to May

I checked my deeds very carefully and fortunately they are very precise on what I own ....


....and the plans do actually specify literally to the inch whose is whose (well mine certainly do)......

So, no doubt at all that I am the rightful owner of that bit of land the neighbour is arguing about and the rest of a section of garden they are currently using. Its quite clear they've been squatting on a whole section of my houses's garden for some time.

So "case closed" I guess.

so I'm much puzzled by your continued problems, and lack of certainty over what you actually own.

moneyistooshorttomention

The phrase "local land for local people" is a very odd phrase to use, as it has no basis in fact.

Land is owned by who it is owned by..local or no.

Anyway...looking forward to an answer to my question by the Land Registry rep on my post made at 12.04pm.

DaftyDuck

It's a (mis)quote from the BBC comedy series Royston Vasey. I somehow imagined you could fit in (or under) the village shop somehow. Just my mental image.

The point here is that the land is not owned, not by you, not by the neighbour, from the information you have supplied so far, despite your repeated assertions that you do own it and have all the proof you need.

Yes, the executors or new owner could continue the claim; change of ownership does not (normally) affect this.

moneyistooshorttomention

LAND REGISTRY REP ONLY

Bump re post 55.

DRP

moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

LAND REGISTRY REP ONLY

Bump re post 55.

have you tried the LR email address?

there may even be a phone number.

DaftyDuck

I think he only works daytimes....

He'll probably be back in next week....