Revenge !!!!!! - have you experienced it or have your children?

Alikay

Peter333 wrote: »

If you don't take naked pictures of yourself and give them to others, then this 'revenge !!!!!!' cannot happen to you.

Not true. My DD has never taken or allowed anyone else to take naked photo's of her, but when she broke up with a boyfriend in 6th form he hacked into her account and posted nude pics on it. They weren't her, but they didn't show the girls' faces, so as far as anyone else was concerned it could've been her body. Luckily it was discovered quickly and the pictures removed so damage was limited, but it was still very upsetting for her.

Person_one

I'm pretty sure it's not new that couples take intimate photographs for themselves/each other to enjoy. The difference is that with a Polaroid there's only one physical copy in existence, with digital cameras and phones it's much harder to keep control over the images after taking them.

However, shouldn't the OP have permission from MSE before posting this sort of request?

thorsoak

fairy_lights wrote: »

I bet if the mobile technology we have now though had been around when you were young people would have taken nude pics back then too..
I know many people, and not just young ones, who take pictures of themselves for their partner. In a world where !!!!!! is so widespread and freely available sending a naked photo to someone you trust really doesn't seem so shocking. I don't think there's anything wrong with that at all, but when things go sour and one person decides to use those photos against the other it can be very damaging.
Why would that be the fault of the victims though?
To betray someones trust by sharing pictures of them is nasty, spiteful behaviour and if someone is capable of doing that, then I'm sure that side of them would manifest in some other way even if they didn't have pictures to share.

As someone else has said - there have been poloroids around since the late 1960s - so yes, they have been available - but one copy only (and one that deteriorated very quickly as well). I agree that it is a betrayal of trust to share such things, but I will still advocate do not do it, do not ask for it! -

thorsoak

Tropez wrote: »

Sorry, but you're wrong. The two situations are incomparable.

That is the argument that was put in the 1970s to anyone who disagreed with the PIE arguments...

Ronaldo_Mconaldo

My wife is a high school teacher and she has lots of stories to tell about the students in her school. One 15 year old girl sent a photo of her naked self to her boyfriend and within no time everyone in the school and three nearest schools had got a copy of it. They now have a policy in the region because it happens sommuch where the girls can move to a different far off school and say that their parents got a new job so that they can get away from it all.

People are entitled to take photos of themselves and send them to whoever they want and we are all entitled to have a good look if they end up on the internet somehow. Fair's fair.

Tropez

thorsoak wrote: »

That is the argument that was put in the 1970s to anyone who disagreed with the PIE arguments...

Is that some sort of newfangled Godwin or something?

We're not talking about peadophiles in this discussion and therefore references to PIE, Operation Ore, Ritual Satanic Child Abuse, Sidney Cooke or other such people, events or scandals involving child abuse have as much to do with the topic as the slave trade.

You cannot compare people who willingly take photographs of themselves and then through nefarious means and a massive breach of trust have those pictures put into public view for malicious purposes to predators who are trying to do horrible things to kids. In fact, your argument is somehow comparing the situation where people willingly take nude pictures of themselves to PIE.

hgotsparkle

My OH has some photos of me that I've sent to him, not doing anything explicit, just of my chest. I trust him to keep these to himself. If we were to break up and he shared them online, am I then to blame for him breaking that trust? Does that mean that I'm at fault for sharing something that is kept between us in person, via text or email whilst he is at work?
Theres a difference between revenge !!!!!! and sharing indecent images. Indecent being those that were intimidated into it, and thats not what revenge !!!!!! is. Revenge !!!!!! is what I have stated. Couples sharing pictures of each other and one getting revenge when the relationship ends by posting online. I think some people are getting their wires crossed.

RAS

This may be why police find it hard to clamp down on younger people sending pics http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10983055/Teenage-girl-given-police-caution-for-sexting-explicit-selfie-to-boyfriend.html?mobile=basic

Basically, the girl in this case was breaking the law as much as the lad.

Lily-Rose_3

Have to agree with Peter, tropez, ronald mcdonaldo, and hgsparkle. If people take naked pictures of themselves and give them to someone, and that 'someone' shares them, then they are as much to blame as the person sharing, for being dumb enough to do it in the first place!

And if my daughter was stupid enough to do it (which she isn't,) I would say exactly the same to her. 'It's your own fault!!!'

Comparing people voluntarily taking pics of themselves naked and sharing them with boyfriends/girlfriends etc, to people being sexually abused and groomed is ridiculous.

hgotsparkle

Lily-Rose wrote: »

Have to agree with Peter, tropez, ronald mcdonaldo, and hgsparkle. If people take naked pictures of themselves and give them to someone, and that 'someone' shares them, then they are as much to blame as the person sharing, for being dumb enough to do it in the first place!

And if my daughter was stupid enough to do it (which she isn't,) I would say exactly the same to her. 'It's your own fault!!!'

I was actually saying the opposite to this....
If my OH, who I trust with my life, was to share pics of me if we broke up, then thats his fault. There is nothing wrong with sharing photos of yourself with someone that you love and trust.