Revenge !!!!!! - have you experienced it or have your children?

thecaveman

The Ditch the Label anti-bullying charity are looking for people to speak publicly about their experiences with having their naked images/videos shared without their consent online. It can either have happened to you or your child.

I believe it's to be featured on TV, radio and newspaper tomorrow. They are looking for people to submit their stories asap either to story@DitchtheLabel.org or via 01273 201129 (ask to speak to Tolu).

Must be available for press interviews tomorrow. Anonymity is an option.

Peter333

Never. But then I wouldn't take naked pictures of myself at ALL, let alone take them and share them with people via smartphone or the internet.

bravobeastie

My daughter was recently a victim of grooming and it broke my heart to discover this disgusting individual had convinced her to send him a picture of herself.

After a visit to the police station we discovered there was nothing they could do about it and we are all still trying to deal with the devastation this has caused.

Adults are mostly responsible for what they send to others whereas a child can feel intimidated and scared not to.

Fluff15

Peter333 wrote: »

Never. But then I wouldn't take naked pictures of myself at ALL, let alone take them and share them with people via smartphone or the internet.

Good for you. The fact of the matter is though, people still do and they should be free to express themselves in whatever way they like. People shouldn't restrict their behaviour out of fear of it being exploited in some way at a later date. If we applied the logic of 'don't do it, so it won't happen to you' to every single situation, we would never leave the house.

Sending a nude photo to one person isn't giving the whole world a right to see those photos, it's an exploitation and violation of privacy, and therefore quite rightly a crime. I have sent photos in the past, nothing that I wasn't uncomfortable with at the time and if they somehow got spread then I personally wouldn't be too bothered. However some are people, even children, are coerced into it and they are then intentionally used to destroy lives. It's terrible, and I feel for those who it affects because there's so many people out there who try and blame the victim.

Peter333

Fluff15 wrote: »

Good for you. The fact of the matter is though, people still do and they should be free to express themselves in whatever way they like. People shouldn't restrict their behaviour out of fear of it being exploited in some way at a later date. If we applied the logic of 'don't do it, so it won't happen to you' to every single situation, we would never leave the house.

Sending a nude photo to one person isn't giving the whole world a right to see those photos, it's an exploitation and violation of privacy, and therefore quite rightly a crime. I have sent photos in the past, nothing that I wasn't uncomfortable with at the time and if they somehow got spread then I personally wouldn't be too bothered. However some are people, even children, are coerced into it and they are then intentionally used to destroy lives. It's terrible, and I feel for those who it affects because there's so many people out there who try and blame the victim.

Completely 100% disagree with every word.

And as for the bolded bit; I stand by what I said. And I think the 'don't do it and it won't happen to you' bit is VERY apt in this instance. If you don't take naked pictures of yourself and give them to others, then this 'revenge !!!!!!' cannot happen to you.

People bring it on themselves and they only have themselves to blame. They KNOW there is a risk of people showing the pictures around, and yet they STILL do it.

Saying I am 'victim blaming' is absurd. You are not a 'victim' if you take a picture of your naked body and your 'bits' and send it to someone, knowing there is a risk they could share it; you are a fool.

Unfortunately, young people are very easily led and are easily manipulated, and they have been victims of 'revenge !!!!!!' moreso than any other generation, but it's still stupid, what they're doing.

If one of my young adult children did this and got exposed, I would feel sorry for them, but I would be angry, and think they were fools for doing it, and tell them that they are to blame as much as the person who shared the pictures.

Fluff15

Peter333 wrote: »

Completely 100% disagree with every word.

And as for the bolded bit; I stand by what I said. And I think the 'don't do it and it won't happen to you' bit is VERY apt in this instance. If you don't take naked pictures of yourself and give them to others, then this 'revenge !!!!!!' cannot happen to you.

People bring it on themselves and they only have themselves to blame. They KNOW there is a risk of people showing the pictures around, and yet they STILL do it.

Saying I am 'victim blaming' is absurd. You are not a 'victim' if you take a picture of your naked body and your 'bits' and send it to someone, knowing there is a risk they could share it; you are a fool.

Unfortunately, young people are very easily led and are easily manipulated, and they have been victims of 'revenge !!!!!!' moreso than any other generation, but it's still stupid, what they're doing.

If one of my young adult children did this and got exposed, I would feel sorry for them, but I would be angry, and think they were fools for doing it, and tell them that they are to blame as much as the person who shared the pictures.

Well I am glad that you are not my parent! I am also glad that the law is on the side of the victims and the law recognises this as a crime.

ukpete79

and tell them that they are to blame as much as the person who shared the pictures.

Really????? AS MUCH TO BLAME????

so glad i'm not one of your 'adult children'

thorsoak

Personally, if anyone sent me a picture of their "bits & pieces" - let alone request such a picture from me, then there would be no friendship.

And this is the advice that I would give to any young person who asked for my opinion.

I appreciate that the world has changed since I was young - but this really is one turn too many. I can see no good coming from it at all. Yes - if I were in a relationship, I would be happy to share my body with the other person - BUT THAT PERSON ONLY - and privately and personally - with no electronic recording.

thorsoak

Fluff15 wrote: »

Good for you. The fact of the matter is though, people still do and they should be free to express themselves in whatever way they like. People shouldn't restrict their behaviour out of fear of it being exploited in some way at a later date. If we applied the logic of 'don't do it, so it won't happen to you' to every single situation, we would never leave the house.

Sending a nude photo to one person isn't giving the whole world a right to see those photos, it's an exploitation and violation of privacy, and therefore quite rightly a crime. I have sent photos in the past, nothing that I wasn't uncomfortable with at the time and if they somehow got spread then I personally wouldn't be too bothered. However some are people, even children, are coerced into it and they are then intentionally used to destroy lives. It's terrible, and I feel for those who it affects because there's so many people out there who try and blame the victim.

This smacks of the arguments put forward in the 1970s who thought that grooming of young people to encompass sexual relations with chldren was not to be denyed.

Sorry - but wrong WRONG WRONG!

Tropez

thorsoak wrote: »

This smacks of the arguments put forward in the 1970s who thought that grooming of young people to encompass sexual relations with chldren was not to be denyed.

Sorry - but wrong WRONG WRONG!

Sorry, but you're wrong. The two situations are incomparable.

fairy_lights

thorsoak wrote: »

I appreciate that the world has changed since I was young - but this really is one turn too many. I can see no good coming from it at all. Yes - if I were in a relationship, I would be happy to share my body with the other person - BUT THAT PERSON ONLY - and privately and personally - with no electronic recording.

I bet if the mobile technology we have now though had been around when you were young people would have taken nude pics back then too..
I know many people, and not just young ones, who take pictures of themselves for their partner. In a world where !!!!!! is so widespread and freely available sending a naked photo to someone you trust really doesn't seem so shocking. I don't think there's anything wrong with that at all, but when things go sour and one person decides to use those photos against the other it can be very damaging.
Why would that be the fault of the victims though?
To betray someones trust by sharing pictures of them is nasty, spiteful behaviour and if someone is capable of doing that, then I'm sure that side of them would manifest in some other way even if they didn't have pictures to share.