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  • Tropez
    Tropez Posts: 3,696 Forumite
    edited 15 October 2014 at 3:10PM
    I'd be interested to know how this will be policed. How explicit does a picture need to be? Are all cultural taboos going to be taken into account and men prosecuted for sharing pictures of their wives without a hat on?

    Logically, it would be an extension of acts such as the Malicious Communications Act and thus all that would need to be proven is that the perpetrator were aware, or should have reasonably been aware, that such images would cause distress if released into the public domain which means that it already accounts for cultural differences.

    For instance, as the law stands now, if you had some images of someone elses wife in a situation that would likely lead to the breakdown of their relationship and deliberately set out to make their husband aware of those images (such as emailing them to him) regardless of the actual content of the images, you'd be committing an offence under the Malicious Communications Act.

    Similarly, the Protection from Harassment Act includes the same requirement that should the perpetrator have belief or knowledge (or reasonably be expected to have belief or knowledge) that their actions would be considered harassment that they would be found guilty of the offence.

    Admittedly, this is all assuming you're not dating Aurora Snow or something...
  • System
    System Posts: 178,349 Community Admin
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    If one trusts someone enough to send them a naked picture of oneself, then the only blame that can be placed on them if that person subsequently shares it without permission is that of misplaced trust.


    Exactly.... just because you can.... doesn't mean you should.
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  • Of course its the persons fault who sends the photo, they might as well just put the photo on line themselves. I honestly do not know anyone whos that daft that they dont think that would happen.
    Its not a sensible thing to do its just stupid.
  • hgotsparkle
    hgotsparkle Posts: 1,282 Forumite
    If you share your deepest secrets with your partner who you trust (as many people do), and you split up, and they post those secrets over social networking for everyone you know to see, is that your fault for telling them the secrets?
  • Peter333 wrote: »
    EXACTLY. Only the very weak and gullible, and people who are desperate to be accepted will take naked pics and send them to someone over the internet.

    Never use Grindr. You'd need to take the vapours within about thirty seconds.
  • hgotsparkle
    hgotsparkle Posts: 1,282 Forumite
    Peter333 wrote: »
    EXACTLY. Only the very weak and gullible, and people who are desperate to be accepted will take naked pics and send them to someone over the internet.

    I'm not weak, I'm not gullible, and I'm certainly not desperate. I have sent pics to exes, and I have to my OH and so far, no bad has come of it, no matter how the relationship ended. Its simply a form of flirting between a couple. My OH tells me he likes to look at the pics when hes off on his lunch break and this gets him excited for what he comes home too.
    If he was to post them online should we break up - I really don't think I'd care. I'd laugh it off and get on with my day. Everyone has a naked body, and everyone is a sexual being.
  • Georgiegirl256
    Georgiegirl256 Posts: 7,005 Forumite
    edited 15 October 2014 at 4:09PM
    Tropez wrote: »
    But again, what type of accountability are you talking about?.[/QUOTE

    Put it this way. If I took a photo of myself and sent it to my husband and he then sent it on to people/posted it up somewhere, then yes he is totally to blame for breaking my trust and doing such a horrible thing, no doubt about it. I however, would feel embarrassed and totally ashamed, and would blame myself for doing such a stupid thing in the first place. I would blame myself for ever thinking it was a good idea. I'm not calling people who do it stupid btw, just that if it happened to me then I would view myself as stupid for ever doing it in the first place.

    Right now, I totally trust my husband, I've told him things I've never told anyone else before, and I truly believe that he's not the sort of person to do such a thing. But as someone (dandelion clock?) mentioned above, who knows what goes through people's minds when going through a bitter and painful breakup. It could even be a spur of the moment thing that they decided to upload the photos?

    I get what you (and others) are saying about keeping the spark alive in LDR, and of course that is a personal choice to make, but it is not one I would do personally. Why put the temptation there in the first place? I wouldn't want to put myself in such a vulnerable position. That is what I mean by being accountable for your own actions. I do see where you are coming from as well, but that's just my own personal view on things. :)
  • Gloomendoom
    Gloomendoom Posts: 16,551 Forumite
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    Tropez wrote: »
    Logically, it would be an extension of acts such as the Malicious Communications Act and thus all that would need to be proven is that the perpetrator were aware, or should have reasonably been aware, that such images would cause distress if released into the public domain which means that it already accounts for cultural differences.

    For instance, as the law stands now, if you had some images of someone elses wife in a situation that would likely lead to the breakdown of their relationship and deliberately set out to make their husband aware of those images (such as emailing them to him) regardless of the actual content of the images, you'd be committing an offence under the Malicious Communications Act.

    Similarly, the Protection from Harassment Act includes the same requirement that should the perpetrator have belief or knowledge (or reasonably be expected to have belief or knowledge) that their actions would be considered harassment that they would be found guilty of the offence.

    Admittedly, this is all assuming you're not dating Aurora Snow or something...

    From reading that, it looks like there is no need for new laws. All the bases seem to be covered already. All that is needed is a few deserving people to be made an example of.
  • System
    System Posts: 178,349 Community Admin
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    I get what you (and others) are saying about keeping the spark alive in LDR, and of course that is a personal choice to make, but it is not one I would do personally. Why put the temptation there in the first place? I wouldn't want to put myself in such a vulnerable position. That is what I mean by being accountable for your own actions. I do see where you are coming from as well, but that's just my own personal view on things. :)
    Your point is as valid as anyone elses.:)
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  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
    I've been Money Tipped!
    j.e.j. wrote: »
    neurooncological, perhaps?
    Thankfully not. Just a mistype. Neurological. And no, I don't think from there either. :rotfl: but its amazing how once crucial bits malfunction, other bits malfunction too.
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