Revenge !!!!!! - have you experienced it or have your children?

j.e.j.

lostinrates wrote: »

If I were in hospital they could see the situation. ( changed word from 'issue' for an obvious reason of risk of miscommunication) , and I would consent to pictures so other consultants at other hospitals could see too. My hospitals are all some way from home, my drs are trying to make life easier for me . It would probably freak you out even more to say I have some of their mobiles too and am urged to text them if I need them. It must be all the smut pics :rotfl:

I'm guessing you're using private healthcare?

j.e.j.

dandelionclock30 wrote: »

So what was wrong with you? was it a bad case of t i t s and a r s e disease?

:rotfl::rotfl:

I assume it was something gynaecological, but obviously they don't have to say what it was, on an internet forum

Soleil_lune

Peter333 wrote: »

Seriously, I've heard it all now. :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Can you actually HEAR yourself?

"What do YOU old farts know anyway? It's perfectly NORMAL for us to take pics of our boobs and bums and give them to a boy we have known for five minutes, because we LOVE him and TRUST him so much. But I will cry like a baby and act the victim when he shares the pics all over the internet!" OMG, it's almost too painful to read! :rotfl:

With pathetic and immature attitudes like this, it makes me stand by what I said earlier, that people who do take naked pics of themselves and give them to their boyfriends, are as much to blame as the people sharing the pics.

As has been said a few times; it's offensive to the extreme to compare these silly, foolish people with genuine victims of sex abuse and grooming.

I find it hilarious to the extreme, that young people think/assume that middle aged and older people know NOTHING about young people today, and also assume that THEY were never young.

Georgiegirl256 wrote: »

I do agree with you that it is a truely awful crime, and to do that to another human being is disgusting, it makes my skin crawl that one human being could do such a thing to another human being, it really does. Like you say, it can destroy lives.

But as Buzzybee has pointed out, young girl after young girl (and maybe some not so young) has done it just so they can 'fit in with the crowd'. I still wouldn't call it the norm, but it's a sad reflection on society today.

j.e.j. wrote: »

I can't help but agree with this ^^

If you allow naked pictures of yourself to end up in cyberspace you are consciously making a decision about your own safety, not to mention dignity!

If he took the photo without your permission that's slightly different, but to knowingly take a nude picture of yourself and send it to someone you are taking that risk.

Have to agree with all these posts. Sorry, but I think that the people taking pictures of themselves naked, (or letting others take them,) and then sharing them about; have to take some responsibility themselves for the pictures being bandied about.

I can't believe that people do it to be honest. I just simply wouldn't do it. I'm no prude, but the thought of posing naked for photographs and then sharing them with someone just leaves me cold.

lostinrates

j.e.j. wrote: »

I'm guessing you're using private healthcare?

j.e.j. wrote: »

:rotfl::rotfl:

I assume it was something gynaecological, but obviously they don't have to say what it was, on an internet forum

I have aa mixture of private and NHS care, and I have complex neurococological and neuroendocrinological condition.

Tropez

BJV wrote: »

Again for the avoidance out doubt sharing images for the purpose of revenge !!!!!! is wrong. It is not the victims fault but why even put yourself in the position.


An image lasts for years and can even then still resurface.

I do hate it when people choose to respond in the quoted post, rather than simply add quote tags around what they wish to respond to.

No not once have I said it is their fault so please do not put words in my mouth.

I was discussing this last night with my OH.

If I give you a diamond ring to show my affection it is yours to do as your see fit. So if I send you a picture and my affection stops when does the diamond ring or the picture no longer become yours? When do you no longer have access or rights to view?

But that is exactly what you're arguing by placing blame on the victims. Every time you put the onus on the victims to "take control" you are saying they are to blame, yet earlier whatever happened to you wasn't your fault. There's no putting words in your mouth, I'm going by what you're actually arguing.

And really? A diamond ring? So you're going to sit there and equate... what? Someone giving a diamond ring away that was previously a gift to someone who puts intimate photographs online? Really? You think that is remotely the same thing?

This isn't about the rights to view a picture, or the rights to wear a diamond ring. It is about the devastating effect of revenge !!!!!!.

I do not know the day to day lives of thieves perhaps because I do not let myself become an easy option and leave my doors unlocked.


Did you know that insurance companies "take control " encourage people to be responsible for their own actions in that they will not settle an insurance claim if you have not taken reasonable care and attention? Eg car stolen, door wide open keys left in the ignition.

Again, you avoided answering a straightforward question. As you have stated that people who leave their doors unlocked are to blame for getting burgled, do you believe that the thief should not be punished? It is a very simple question.

Also I suggest you get a different insurer. Most insurance companies actually will settle even in the case of absent mindedness. Hell, if I poured coffee all over my computer right now, I'd still get the going rate back for it.

mmmm sorry sounds to me like taking control and limiting what people in the digital world can see. !!!

Do you even know what you're debating or are you just deliberately conducting your own debate in order to be obtuse? I share what I want to share. The thing is we're not talking about people who upload nudie pics of themselves. We're talking about people who have private images shared by a third party for malicious purposes.

Again for the avoidance out doubt sharing images for the purpose of revenge !!!!!! is wrong. It is not the victims fault but why even put yourself in the position.

Again "why even put yourself in that position" shifts blame to the victim, regardless of the words that preceded that statement.

An image lasts for years and can even then still resurface.

The point is that it shouldn't and those who do so should be punished and those affected shouldn't get the disgusting treatment that clearly a lot of people think they deserve.

Gloomendoom

lostinrates wrote: »

I have aa mixture of private and NHS care, and I have complex neurococological and neuroendocrinological condition.

Google even drew a blank on that one!

j.e.j.

Gloomendoom wrote: »

Google even drew a blank on that one!

neurooncological, perhaps?

Gloomendoom

Tropez wrote: »

The point is that it shouldn't and those who do so should be punished and those affected shouldn't get the disgusting treatment that clearly a lot of people think they deserve.

I'd be interested to know how this will be policed. How explicit does a picture need to be? Are all cultural taboos going to be taken into account and men prosecuted for sharing pictures of their wives without a hat on?

System

Have to agree with all these posts. Sorry, but I think that the people taking pictures of themselves naked, (or letting others take them,) and then sharing them about; have to take some responsibility themselves for the pictures being bandied about.

Totally agree, if the pictures weren't taken in the first place there would be none to misuse.

I can't believe that people do it to be honest. I just simply wouldn't do it. I'm no prude, but the thought of posing naked for photographs and then sharing them with someone just leaves me cold.

Naked? Err that's enough to make my blood run cold too....

onomatopoeia99

Soleil_lune wrote: »

Have to agree with all these posts. Sorry, but I think that the people taking pictures of themselves naked, (or letting others take them,) and then sharing them about; have to take some responsibility themselves for the pictures being bandied about.

If one trusts someone enough to send them a naked picture of oneself, then the only blame that can be placed on them if that person subsequently shares it without permission is that of misplaced trust.

I have a great deal of difficulty with trusting too much being a considered a reason to be "blamed". The blame attaches soley to the person that shares the image without permission from the subject. Just because they are in a position where they can does not mean that they should or that it is right to do so.