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lostinrates

GDB2222 wrote: »

Kondo method of de cluttering?

Dog dog stays, she passes the only test ' does it bring you joy?'


( that sort of thing I like about the kondo method......)

ivyleaf

lostinrates wrote: »

No one is perfect. Lots of people are smug though. Re easiness...I think it changes with appitude and attitude.


I'm going to attempt some of the kondo method tomorrow,...but my heart 's not in it and I KNOW this is a bad attitude and will make it harder going, heavier work. You are meant to start with clothes. Every single item you own on the floor of your bedroom and what doesn't arrive there in this first gathering she says should go in the bin by default as it wasn't in your consciousness enough to be actively contributing.


I know if I do this I will collapse under the effort. So, lamely, I though I might take a really pathetic dip toe in water and start with scarves . Then maybe vests. Or nightwear. Things I feel are manageable in quantity but are not currently adequately contained.

Its hard to do some of it without fir here as some of our clothes drawers are shared ( including pants, and 'winter goods' ) but scarves and nightwear and my vests and tops etc I could do alone and with little physical effort.

lir, i bought the Kindle version of her book yesterday and I notice she says that it (discarding/reorganising) needs to be done all at once, as it were, and that doing tidying a bit at a time won't work.

This has put me off immediately, since there are an awful lot of us who physically just won't be able to get it all done in one fell swoop.

Not to mention the thing you mentioned on the Kondo thread, that those of us who don't live alone can't go discarding and reorganising other family members' stuff unless they are happy for us to do so Mr ivyleaf, for instance, has loads of extraneous "stuff" and gets very stressed and ratty if he feels I'm trying to organise him.

Doozergirl I was too late to read the news you deleted but it sounds excellent whatever it is. I'm guessing it's to do with your new career :j

lostinrates

ivyleaf wrote: »

lir, i bought the Kindle version of her book yesterday and I notice she says that it (discarding/reorganising) needs to be done all at once, as it were, and that doing tidying a bit at a time won't work.

This has put me off immediately, since there are an awful lot of us who physically just won't be able to get it all done in one fell swoop.

Not to mention the thing you mentioned on the Kondo thread, that those of us who don't live alone can't go discarding and reorganising other family members' stuff unless they are happy for us to do so Mr ivyleaf, for instance, has loads of extraneous "stuff" and gets very stressed and ratty if he feels I'm trying to organise him.

Doozergirl I was too late to read the news you deleted but it sounds excellent whatever it is. I'm guessing it's to do with your new career :j

Yes, The all at once can take months though. .



I'm dipping my toe in. I'm thinking I might get consider three build in cupboards being built this year, One in our room, one in RP's room and one down stairs to be a linen cupboard. Having somewhere proper to put linen and towels would be really a huge improvement. I can deal with them downstairs straight off the line, fold them and put them away, proper old fashioned linen press type thing, but also boxing in my new heating crud :)

Don't want it to look new though. Want it to look beat up, old and like its taken some abuse.

GDB2222

lostinrates wrote: »

Dog dog stays, she passes the only test ' does it bring you joy?'


( that sort of thing I like about the kondo method......)

Can you only keep things that bring you joy? What about things that are clearly useful but do not evoke any strong emotions, e.g. toilet paper?

Nikkster

GDB2222 wrote: »

Can you only keep things that bring you joy? What about things that are clearly useful but do not evoke any strong emotions, e.g. toilet paper?

I dunno, I think toilet paper could be quite joyous compared to the alternatives :eek:

PasturesNew

Spirit wrote: »

I cannot fold clothes at present so OH puts my clothes away and gets them out for me. Yesterday he tidied my knicker drawer. he counted 36 pairs and said it is too many and I must ditch some. As number of bras are now too big I should probably start with them and the matching knickers but the only thing to do is put them in the clothes bank and some are just too good/barely worn. Oh well. It is one of the betttr problems to have I suppose.

Maybe not much help, but I roll clothes, rather than folding. They fit neater, stay less creased - and you can see what you've got and move them about without spoiling their arrangement.

lostinrates

GDB2222 wrote: »

Can you only keep things that bring you joy? What about things that are clearly useful but do not evoke any strong emotions, e.g. toilet paper?

Nikkster wrote: »

I dunno, I think toilet paper could be quite joyous compared to the alternatives :eek:

Go without for a day or a week. If you don 't feel joy about such a wondrous thing as loo paper you are missing a moment of true appreciation for your lifestyle but also for the hard work both you and lady gdb do that you can consider this a mere incidental

Marie kondo might have you say thank you to your loo roll

PasturesNew

ivyleaf wrote: »

.... she says that it (discarding/reorganising) needs to be done all at once, as it were, and that doing tidying a bit at a time won't work.

One article online says in six months:

"encourages a rapid, dramatic and transformative one-time organising event completed methodically and lovingly in no more than six months."

So do it in six months, not as an ongoing lifestyle forever, without end.

SingleSue

ivyleaf wrote: »

lir, i bought the Kindle version of her book yesterday and I notice she says that it (discarding/reorganising) needs to be done all at once, as it were, and that doing tidying a bit at a time won't work.

This has put me off immediately, since there are an awful lot of us who physically just won't be able to get it all done in one fell swoop.

Not to mention the thing you mentioned on the Kondo thread, that those of us who don't live alone can't go discarding and reorganising other family members' stuff unless they are happy for us to do so Mr ivyleaf, for instance, has loads of extraneous "stuff" and gets very stressed and ratty if he feels I'm trying to organise him.

Doozergirl I was too late to read the news you deleted but it sounds excellent whatever it is. I'm guessing it's to do with your new career :j

Well I disagree, mine was a gradual process over a few months and only when my body was up to it. No way could it have been done all at the same time, there was much too much of it over too many rooms and my energy reserves/physical ability is just not there.

And it has worked for me, 6 months in and the clutter/disorganisation has not come back.

SingleSue

PasturesNew wrote: »

One article online says in six months:

"encourages a rapid, dramatic and transformative one-time organising event completed methodically and lovingly in no more than six months."

So do it in six months, not as an ongoing lifestyle forever, without end.

Ah, 6 months is more like it. I could never finish a room in one day, I would do one corner or one little bit and that would be it for the day. If I had been more mobile, I suppose I could have got the one room done in a day.

It wouldn't be every day either, decluttering for that small time on one day would leave me incapable of doing anything else for a couple of days....so very very slow progress.

Good thing my house is not that big, it is one of the smallest 3 bedroom houses I have ever known!