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lostinrates

Doozergirl wrote: »

I think most parents will come under both of those umbrellas at some time. A parent who needs to constantly stimulate a child will end up either burning out or with a child that is clingy and too heavily reliant on their parent.

Anyone who thinks they are (or that is somehow possible to be) a perfect parent is on a probable hiding to nothing.

I think there is something really different from constantly stimulating a kid to pushing it round shops on the phone while it sits there bored and resigned.

My parents had a LOT of faults and did fir's, but neither of those were theirs. There is also a difference between expecting constant motivation and expecting them to sit like lemons not interacting while the adult cannot resist this stimulation themselves with friends or phone.

Of course parents have faults! But its also true there are parents who do do a bad job and 'swan around' ( not nice parents). If there were not then primary school intake teachers wouldn't be faced with kids who cannot toilet, eat themselves or get changed. Let alone have been introduced to books, or numbers or other ideas that would help them hit the floor running.

( fwiw, my niece were tiny then primary when they lived with me, I know toddlers are not easy, but, by heck, they are fun, more fun than babies IMO.)

PasturesNew

michaels wrote: »

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This whole hobby of "going on holidays" never seems to work for you does it. Maybe next time a tent in your own garden's the safest way to go.

vivatifosi

Generali wrote: »

All well BTW. The $&@?ing idiots missed me again.

Thank goodness for that! Are you at the airport or stuck indoors somewhere? I heard they are still on the loose. Safe onwards journey Gen.

Doozergirl

lostinrates wrote: »

I think there is something really different from constantly stimulating a kid to pushing it round shops on the phone while it sits there bored and resigned.

My parents had a LOT of faults and did fir's, but neither of those were theirs. There is also a difference between expecting constant motivation and expecting them to sit like lemons not interacting while the adult cannot resist this stimulation themselves with friends or phone.

Of course parents have faults! But its also true there are parents who do do a bad job and 'swan around' ( not nice parents). If there were not then primary school intake teachers wouldn't be faced with kids who cannot toilet, eat themselves or get changed. Let alone have been introduced to books, or numbers or other ideas that would help them hit the floor running.

( fwiw, my niece were tiny then primary when they lived with me, I know toddlers are not easy, but, by heck, they are fun, more fun than babies IMO.)

I think we can all agree that there are good and bad parents and heavy mix of inbetweeners, but I did start this in reply to what I saw as an assumption by PN, one that is incorrect for most parents.

l am pretty sure that the woman this morning who wanted to move to New Zealand and work part time, was wanting it for a better life and probably to spend more time with her child adding value, not simply for the purposes of having it easy while her husband does the 'real work'. Whether it was achievable, I guess was the point of the programme.

That isn't what the real world of trying to be a good mother/wife/employer/employee is like. Or indeed husband/father... It's an very far stretch between reality and 'swanning' and respect is due to anyone that looks like they are treading water at being good at all three.

Generali

Doozergirl wrote: »

There's a pattern emerging, no denying!

LOL. It was Martin McGuinness before this. They never succeed.

vivatifosi wrote: »

Thank goodness for that! Are you at the airport or stuck indoors somewhere? I heard they are still on the loose. Safe onwards journey Gen.

Nope, been to La Louvre this avo and am now in H&M 'enjoying' the first day of the sales. Then off for dinner with a friend. Something a little bit more modest than yesterday. We fly out tomorrow. We're staying in the next arrondissement from where the car was found. It doesn't bother me. More people will have died of smoking and drinking in France today than terrorism. Eating an extra portion of veg and crossing at the lights will increase my life expectancy more than staying indoors I reckon.

lostinrates

Doozergirl wrote: »

That isn't what the real world of trying to be a good mother/wife/employer/employee is like. Or indeed husband/father... It's an very far stretch between reality and 'swanning' and respect is due to anyone that looks like they are treading water at being good at all three.

Agreed.

I think the whether its achievable or not is a huge moral question that we have been rumination on for decades. Yet still cannot really answer satisfactorily. The best answer seems to be sometimes but not always, and yet economics doesn't allow that divide really.

vivatifosi

Generali wrote: »

LOL. It was Martin McGuinness before this. They never succeed.



Nope, been to La Louvre this avo and am now in H&M 'enjoying' the first day of the sales. Then off for dinner with a friend. Something a little bit more modest than yesterday. We fly out tomorrow. We're staying in the next arrondissement from where the car was found. It doesn't bother me. More people will have died of smoking and drinking in France today than terrorism. Eating an extra portion of veg and crossing at the lights will increase my life expectancy more than staying indoors I reckon.

I didn't know whether the city was in lockdown, a bit like in the USA. Glad to hear normality ensues instead. That's important so as not to let them win.

silvercar

Generali wrote: »

All well BTW. The $&@?ing idiots missed me again.

I read that totally wrong.

I thought you work bosses in Oz had got in touch to say they missed you not being at work.:o

CKhalvashi

PasturesNew wrote: »

Lucky you've got us then! Perfect moaning platform

Thanks

I know I'm badly parked, but that is 37.7cm narrower than the Execmobile. Can someone explain why there is only 10cm left in the bay, and I had to get out of the passenger side?

PasturesNew

CKhalvashi wrote: »

...explain why there is only 10cm left in the bay

Slots are getting much narrower. I now try to park furthest from the doorway of a building as I can always get my car into a space, but car rarely open the door. I try to find an end slot, just so I can get out.... and be able to get back into the car when I return.