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  • GDB2222
    GDB2222 Posts: 26,465 Forumite
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    They found Parabens in malignant tumours. Which proves what, exactly?

    Did they test for DiHydrogen Monoxide? This was bound to be present, too, so which was the causative agent? Or possibly tumours simply accumulate these chemicals, without either of them having caused the cancer.
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • Generali
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    edited 22 November 2014 at 6:19AM
    GDB2222 wrote: »
    They found Parabens in malignant tumours. Which proves what, exactly?

    Did they test for DiHydrogen Monoxide? This was bound to be present, too, so which was the causative agent? Or possibly tumours simply accumulate these chemicals, without either of them having caused the cancer.

    Well that's it then, I'm giving up water. There's no way I'm getting cancer again.

    Did you see that study from Cardiff that kinda covers what I was saying about the 5 things you need to do to live a long healthy life (on average)?

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/12/131209181059.htm
    The study identifies five healthy behaviors as being integral to having the best chance of leading a disease-free lifestyle: taking regular exercise, non-smoking, a low body weight, a healthy diet and a low alcohol intake.


    The people who consistently followed four or five of these behaviors experienced a 60 per cent decline in dementia and cognitive decline -- with exercise being the strongest mitigating factor -- as well as 70 per cent fewer instances of diabetes, heart disease and stroke, compared with people who followed none.


    "The size of reduction in the instance of disease owing to these simple healthy steps has really amazed us and is of enormous importance in an aging population," said Principle Investigator Professor Peter Elwood from Cardiff University's School of Medicine. "What the research shows is that following a healthy lifestyle confers surprisingly large benefits to health -- healthy behaviors have a far more beneficial effect than any medical treatment or preventative procedure.


    "Taking up and following a healthy lifestyle is however the responsibility of the individual him or herself. Sadly, the evidence from this study shows that very few people follow a fully healthy lifestyle. Furthermore, our findings reveal that while the number of people who smoke has gone down since the study started, the number of people leading a fully healthy lifestyle has not changed," he added.
    Here is the actual study:


    http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0081877


    It's amazing really. I went over this with the Generalissimos and asked them to guess what the 5 healthy things were. Once I got them away from 'being happy' which was related to a previous conversation, they managed to guess all 5 (plus don't take drugs).

    We all know what we should be doing but hand on heart I bet almost nobody can really claim to be doing this.

    My Dad did 3 out of 5 but fell down on exercise and probably drank a little too much. Mum is the same.

    I can only think of 1 person who honestly follows all these things. She's 92 and still delivers meals on wheels, often to people 20 or more years younger than her. She still drives "as long as I promise not to take any passengers" and had to be told by her doctor to stop climbing the fruit trees in her back yard to gather the harvest!

    She eats a small piece of meat/fish with 3 veg twice a day and has toast with fruit for brekkie, never smoked, only drinks ice cold water (there are always 2 bottles in the fridge), takes the dog for 2 walks a day and is built like a whippet.
  • vivatifosi
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    edited 22 November 2014 at 8:40AM
    silvercar wrote: »
    I was serious about beds in John Lewis sale. They have genuine half price offers and they deliver free.

    Decent double for £349 - would be cheaper in the sale.

    I've got a Myers Stature in spare room. Got for about £270 in sale. That's memory foam and quite good. Agree with silver too, the Silent night is a decent divan too. Gah, auto correct the brand has been made two words and I nearly failed to spot divan had been changed to Duncan. Though going to bed with a Duncan could also be interesting. And the word too far tooooooooo prevalent in this post. Too hard to correct now.
    Please stay safe in the sun and learn the A-E of melanoma: A = asymmetry, B = irregular borders, C= different colours, D= diameter, larger than 6mm, E = evolving, is your mole changing? Most moles are not cancerous, any doubts, please check next time you visit your GP.
  • Wheezy_2
    Wheezy_2 Posts: 1,879 Forumite
    fc123 wrote: »
    I would recommend Warren Evans ..they do regular offers on a bed and mattress for about £550 and they are so stable and comfortable, I feel that the extra spent is a 'saving' as we won't need to replace them for years. I bought 2 diff ones.
    Yes, Warren Evans. Bought bed and mattress from them last June, spent an amount I'd never thought we'd spend on a bed, but it's definitely worth every penny.
    Don't scrimp on the bed, PN.
    And you need something sturdy. ;)
    Generali wrote: »
    Good health is simple:

    - don't be fat working on it
    - eat loads of veggies and fruit could do better
    - don't drink too much check
    - exercise every day (a brisk walk is enough) check
    - don't smoke check
  • Wheezy_2
    Wheezy_2 Posts: 1,879 Forumite
    Am I the only NP who abhors mushy peas then? :undecided
  • michaels
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    Wheezy wrote: »
    Am I the only NP who abhors mushy peas then? :undecided

    No you are not.
    I think....
  • hjd
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    Wheezy wrote: »
    Am I the only NP who abhors mushy peas then? :undecided

    Definitely not.
    DH likes them though (but then he likes mushrooms, I don't - I enjoy fish and tomatoes, he won't eat either.)
  • Wheezy_2
    Wheezy_2 Posts: 1,879 Forumite
    I love fresh peas though...Pick a pod, crack it open...nom! nom! nom! (as Generali would say)
    Boiled peas are okay, but not really fond of them.
    Mushy peas....no.
  • Generali
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    Wheezy wrote: »
    I love fresh peas though...Pick a pod, crack it open...nom! nom! nom! (as Generali would say)
    Boiled peas are okay, but not really fond of them.
    Mushy peas....no.

    Lightly boiled peas nom
    Raw peas fresh from the plant nom
    Mushy peas.......blehhhhh
    Very briefly cooked peas and broad beans with lemon and olive oil and some fresh mint and maybe a little asparagus. Nom Nom Nom. Great on the side with butterflied bbq lamb leg.

    Fish nom
    tomatoes nom
    Mushies nom
  • PasturesNew
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    Wheezy wrote: »
    Am I the only NP who abhors mushy peas then? :undecided

    There are a lot of modern peas that use the name, but they're not. Even chip shops will often serve up inferior replacements (they're more like marrowfat peas).

    Unless you've had proper mushy peas, cooked from dried ones, steeped overnight, then you might not have actually had any :)
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