John Lewis mattress-cheaper equivalent????

Pinkypants

Depends on your budget.

But Restus/Kozzeesleep when purchased online are very good value for money.

bigup7

hows everyone getting on with the Restus Crystal 3000 ?

were after a new mattress and this one seems the one to go for!

benjus

Pinkypants wrote: »

So are Rolex in terms of watches.

I think Patek Philippe and a few other watch makers might disagree with you there.

Pinkypants wrote: »

Similar with Vi-spring, very over priced for what they are.

On the basis that you spend about a third of your life in bed, I subscribe to the view that you should spend as much as you can afford on a mattress, even if it means spending less on other things... people don't seem to have issues spending lots of money on a fancy car when a far cheaper one would still get them from A to B.

So if I were looking for a new mattress, spending (for example) up to a few thousand for a king size, which brands actually deliver good value for money without paying for brand prestige or pointless gimmicks?

bigup7

ive ordered a Restus Crystal 3000 today,will report back when ive slept on it for a few nights

Pinkypants

benjus wrote: »

I think Patek Philippe and a few other watch makers might disagree with you there.



On the basis that you spend about a third of your life in bed, I subscribe to the view that you should spend as much as you can afford on a mattress, even if it means spending less on other things... people don't seem to have issues spending lots of money on a fancy car when a far cheaper one would still get them from A to B.

So if I were looking for a new mattress, spending (for example) up to a few thousand for a king size, which brands actually deliver good value for money without paying for brand prestige or pointless gimmicks?

Whilst I agree with you to a point, I'm remembering that this is a MONEY SAVING forum, a mattress to a degree is a mattress. Comparing it to a car is a little off somewhat. Cars are different shapes to each other, have different specs to each other in terms of A/C, radio etc.. But the kicker with cars is the snob factor i.e what brand you drive. Who the hell sees or even cares what mattress YOU sleep on.

Once you hit around the £600-£800 price point for a king size mattress anything else is just pointless gimmicks!

I'm just offering my independent 15 years+ of experience in the trade of what I consider very good value for money.

Think of it as 2 builders that are THE SAME standard one is £10 an hour and the other is £40 an hour as he drives a top of the range car, has a secretary and a top accountant to pay.

All the big boys have massive over heads and there's only one person that pays those overheads at the end of the day and that's the end consumer.

garryselby

go on ebay type in John Lewis mattress {size} double king size and see whats on a couple firms sell slight seconds basicly new scuffed or minor blemish or just buy send back new they clear off not saying they have model you want but massive saving worth a look I know company in Haslingden clears John Lewis stuff on Ebay ,

bigup7

Pinkypants wrote: »

You're most welcome passion flower.

Hope they told you to turn it regularly, weekly for the 1st 8-12 weeks (sorry) and then once a month after that.

You may notice that the fillings settle a little where you body has been, this isn't a fault with the mattress. It's just like walking on the same bit of carpet. The fillings flatten, turning the mattress will help.

It is a beast of a product for sure. Sleep well.

In preparation of my crystal 3000 arriving

Are you supposed to turn and rotate as well or just turn? What is the properly schedule for this?

I saw a Hypnos mattress online which had a label on every side of the mattress with month on them, is this the same ?

benjus

Pinkypants wrote: »

Whilst I agree with you to a point, I'm remembering that this is a MONEY SAVING forum, a mattress to a degree is a mattress. Comparing it to a car is a little off somewhat. Cars are different shapes to each other, have different specs to each other in terms of A/C, radio etc.. But the kicker with cars is the snob factor i.e what brand you drive. Who the hell sees or even cares what mattress YOU sleep on.

Once you hit around the £600-£800 price point for a king size mattress anything else is just pointless gimmicks!

I'm just offering my independent 15 years+ of experience in the trade of what I consider very good value for money.

Think of it as 2 builders that are THE SAME standard one is £10 an hour and the other is £40 an hour as he drives a top of the range car, has a secretary and a top accountant to pay.

All the big boys have massive over heads and there's only one person that pays those overheads at the end of the day and that's the end consumer.

Thanks - I'm not criticising anyone... it was a genuine question as to how to get quality on a par with the expensive brands without paying for the brand name, the posh shops etc. Mattress brands are unfamiliar to most people and there seem to be plenty of dodgy brands out there claiming to be a bargain.

To go back to the car analogy, a BMW has more brand prestige than a Renault, so some of the price difference is due to this. But then the BMW will also be better made, more reliable, more durable. So by paying more you're also getting a better product - although it's a case of diminishing returns, as you don't get twice as good a product for paying twice as much. Your builder analogy only works if the cheaper builder is actually just as good as the expensive one - maybe the expensive builder is expensive because he's better at building and can ask higher prices, and spends it on better staff.

Anyway, it's interesting to see your suggestion of £800 being the sweet spot. Our current king size mattress was around £800 IIRC from John Lewis. It's nice and comfortable but it's starting to feel a bit worn after only 3 years, so I'm not particularly impressed with the durability. Next time maybe I'll try spending a similar amount with Restus.

Pinkypants

bigup7 wrote: »

In preparation of my crystal 3000 arriving

Are you supposed to turn and rotate as well or just turn? What is the properly schedule for this?

I saw a Hypnos mattress online which had a label on every side of the mattress with month on them, is this the same ?

Turn it, then turn it and rotate it, then back to turn. Repeat for life!

Do it WEEKLY for 1st 6-8 weeks, a hassle I know but it'll help with the settlement of the fillings. Once a month thereafter.

Sleep well.

Only one label on the crystal mattress.

Fraise

Pinkypants wrote: »

Firmness is achieved by the thickness of the wire that makes up the springs.

Hi Pinkypants,

You are SO helpful and really know your onions too:)

I've yet to replace my bed as have been decorating etc, so now am having to decide on which bed to buy. My current one is about 13 years old and when I first got it I was over the moon, it's a Relyon Supreme, soft and wonderfully comfortable. It was like sleeping in a cloud. It has started to dip slightly, possibly due to so much usage by my OH:( and of course its age. I understand beds should be changed every 10 years?

I don't want to buy another Relyon as I've heard their quality has come down....

I'd love a Vi SPring but it's outside my budget. However, I have seen an alternative made by Factory Beds Direct and going by everything they say on their site, they sound brilliant.

They do one which they say is comparable to a Vi Spring Tiara but is thousands cheaper. Of course, I can't try beforehand, but they do say they will refund if it isn't suitable. Bit of a headache doing that though......

So, two questions I have for you if you don't mind:

I'm getting a superking and my current one is just king size. Turning the mattress is a giant feat due to the weight of it. I'm thinking of getting a zip and link to make turning the mattresses easier.

Are there any downsides to zip and links, or are they much the same as a full mattress?

Second question I have for you if you'd be so kind:

I'm putting a link below to the bed I'm thinking of getting from Factory Direct. They go into great detail about it and say it's like a Vi Spring Tiara, so with your expertise I'd like to know if you think this is a good buy or not?

They sound a decent company but I'm a bit concerned paying a lot of money for something I haven't tested.

Many thanks in advance

http://www.factory-beds-direct.co.uk/mattress-sho/superking-mattresses-categories/artisan-bespoke-002-superking/