Jealousy of Motability car
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I think we all understand that you aren't happy that the disabled are given benefits that you wish you could access as well.
As Sandra says - you only get the benefits if you are disabled because of your disabilities.
Do you think disabled people shouldn't be given benefits?
You don't necessarily get the benefits because of disability. Try being 66 when disease takes away your previously normal mobility and see what benefits you will get. Yet anyone 65 or less can keep the benefit, assuming they continue to meet the criteria, until they die.0 -
wildwestfan wrote: »You don't necessarily get the benefits because of disability. Try being 66 when disease takes away your previously normal mobility and see what benefits you will get. Yet anyone 65 or less can keep the benefit, assuming they continue to meet the criteria, until they die.
Mobility benefits work that way. I suppose the thinking is that most of us would eventually be able to claim mobility benefits if they were available for the over 65s which is why we're restricted to care-related benefits.0 -
SandraScarlett wrote: »You will always find folk who will view the pain, disability or anguish of another, as being lucky. It's jealousy, and will always exist.
When I'm pottering about in my front garden, many neighbours stop to ask how my husband is. It's 3 months since he went into a Care Home, with advanced Alzheimer's, which first appeared 11 years ago.
Whilst I was chatting with one of them today, a delivery arrived. When the neighbour heard what I was signing for, she informed me how lucky I was. What was being delivered to make her so envious? A diamond ring? A new car? Free food?
No, I was signing for 12 weeks supply of ........................ incontinence pants!!!! :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: After years of battling to get these supplied by the NHS, who would originally only offer pads for our Health Authority, my request was granted. For some ridiculous reason, some areas offer both, and some will only offer pads, which are not as secure, so I'd been buying the pants myself for my husband.
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I don't give a flying fig what the neighbours think, I'm sure you don't either! I get boxes and boxes or supplies every month from the NHS and I would swap them with anyone if they could take that urostomy etc. that they are supplied for.
Do you still have the motorbility WAV Sandra? They might be knebbing about that?0 -
It makes me somebody who doesn't have to keep using the word t.t in their posts. Do you have a mammary fixation that maybe a psychologist could help with?"I have opinions on a range of subjects", yes sadly 6545 of them!
Does this make you a contrary procrastinator or just a bored old t...
I'm sorry that my opinions don't fit in with you but tough luck. Have you ever tried having an original thought yet?0 -
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You appear to be jealous of disabled people having a car on Motability. You do realise that even if they didn't have a car on the scheme, they could use the money instead on buying a car themselves through a garage? Why do you have such a problem with the Motability scheme?Why? Aren't I allowed to be? Do I have to be disabled or 100% pro to be here or can I have an opinion.
I am on because I have opinions on a range of subjects and am free to make those opinions, whether you like it or not, known unless you know of some rule or legislation that debars me.
The fact that you question my purpose on here says to me that you would rather this be a cosy appreciation society rather than somewhere where people can have opinions contrary to yourself on disabled matters.
There appears to be a culture on the MSE forums that disability is a sacred cow and anything to do with it must not be questioned otherwise the cabal will descend on you with a vengeance. I am one of those people who WILL question some of the things to do with disability so live with it.0 -
wildwestfan wrote: »You don't necessarily get the benefits because of disability. Try being 66 when disease takes away your previously normal mobility and see what benefits you will get. Yet anyone 65 or less can keep the benefit, assuming they continue to meet the criteria, until they die.
But there have to be demarcation lines, or do you think there shouldn't be? For example, if my DH had more than £23K ish in savings, he wouldn't get any financial help towards his Care Home fees.I don't give a flying fig what the neighbours think, I'm sure you don't either! I get boxes and boxes or supplies every month from the NHS and I would swap them with anyone if they could take that urostomy etc. that they are supplied for.
Do you still have the motorbility WAV Sandra? They might be knebbing about that?
Funny you should say that ..... one website said that if you keep the vehicle, then your equivalent DLA Mobility amount has to be paid over, but another said it's not.
When I eventually get a bill, I'll let you know.
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I don't like !!!!!!'s posts on this thread. He/she does come across as jealous and maybe somewhat bitter that disabled people can access the Motability scheme if they meet the qualifying conditions. However, as with everything, he or she is entitled to their opinion. It doesn't mean that I agree with him/her though!
As the parent of a disabled child, who will never achieve independence, I feel saddened that some people object to kids like my son having access to a reliable car so that I can take him to different places - including his many hospital and clinic appointments. I am extremely grateful for the use of the car, as getting to my son's appointments would mean long journeys on public transport and problems with getting a space on some buses for his wheelchair. Already, one of his appointments is two hours long, seeing the dietician, physiotherapist, thoracic consultant, and surgeon. Add on the waiting times, plus public transport and connections between buses, and it would make an already demanding time even longer for my son, who is not as physically strong as other teenagers.
As for the rest of the time, it means that I don't have to get two buses to his school. After all, most towns don't have many special schools - one or two schools take in children from over a much wider area. It means that he can access a deaf youth club - otherwise it would be two buses each way. Again, attending local clubs is more difficult for disabled children, as they don't always have suitable facilities or support.
For my son, having the use of a Motability car is of immense value, even if he is not aware of it - his learning disability means that he wouldn't understand if I tried to explain it to him. As his mum, and with no other transport available in my household, I am thankful that we are able to give up the HRM cash in exchange for the car and all it entails. It takes a bit of stress out of my life.
As for sticking together on the disability forum, and not being able to say anything negative, well, sometimes I do disagree, but often it is in a subject I don't care enough about to comment on. I do feel that people with disabilities, and their families, should support each other and offer help and advice - which I find happens on this board.
!!!!!!, you may be envious of the access to a Motability car, but in exchange, my son has major, lifelong disabilities. He has been close to death several times - fortunately not since he was a small child though. He will never live independently, is unlikely to marry, and will never drive. He cannot manage money - he thinks that a penny is enough to buy whatever he is interested in at the time, and will hold his hand out for change. His mental age is around five, but his biological age is 16. He will grow older, but mentally will stay the same age. I could go on, but I won't.
Jealousy is a vey negative emotion, and I feel sorry that you feel this way towards a scheme designed to help those most in need of transport. I know that there are people who abuse the scheme out there, but I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about those in genuine need of a reliable car due to disability. My son receives HRM (which we don't see, as it pays for the car), as he has been assessed as having fulfilled the criteria for HRM - correctly in my point of view, and in the opinion of his doctors and specialists.
I respect that you have the right to express your views. I hope that you allow me the same respect to express my views.0 -
An excellent post kingfisherblue, that gives all the salient facts.
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!!!!!!, one of the reasons that this board exists, is because although there is a wide range of accessible information, about umpteen things, in general, it's not so easy to find information for minority groups, of which the disabled are one.
For example, people have posted in the past about places you can visit where the carer goes free of charge. Of course, there may be instances where both the disabled person and their carer wanted to visit the place anyway, so they're getting a good deal, but there are other times when the carer is accompanying the disabled person, because without their help, the disabled person couldn't go.
It was also very distressing for people to complete the labyrinth of forms necessary to claim DLA, and AA, and to know how to tackle these. By posting about their experiences, people who have already done this, can help others.
Although the Motability Scheme may appear to you to offer vehicles with favourable terms, it enables people with a wide range of disabilities to reach destinations that they couldn't access using public transport.
Is that a bad thing? Or unfair to the able bodied? Would you prefer that rate to be increased? Or do you want the scheme to be scrapped? Although you are absolutely correct to say that you are entitled to an opinion - so is everyone else.
If the opinion of other posters is that you are being provocative in your posts - they are equally entitled to their opinions, without having to resort to typing in upper case, as you did.
I hope that you are never able to get a vehicle from the Motability Scheme, because that would mean you'd be disabled in some shape or form. I wish you good health.
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