Jealousy of Motability car

bigbulldog

Yorksport wrote: »

Whilst they do technically 'pay' for it by foregoing cash benefits, the amount they forego is a good deal less than any other individual would need to pay for a similar lease (road tax and insurance included).

UTTER TOSH......


There's no techinically about it as they DO pay for it.

Indie_Kid

Yorksport wrote: »

This is certainly a contentious scheme and whilst I can see why it was started, I think the provision of cars should be abandoned and benefits paid in cash where there is a valid claim. It will then be up to the claimant what they spend it on. What irks the taxpayer is the fact that motability claimants receive a brand new car every 3 years when the majority of taxpayers can never afford one. Whilst they do technically 'pay' for it by foregoing cash benefits, the amount they forego is a good deal less than any other individual would need to pay for a similar lease (road tax and insurance included). I wonder too why is there such a wide choice and why the cars are not marked as disability cars as they used to be.

The wide choice is because everyone has different needs. You have people who just need a suitable car, you have people who have a wheelchair for which they need a larger boot for, etc.

They wouldn't pay road tax whether the car was from motability or not.

corf999

Motability pay no VAT on the new car (unless this has changed in last 2 years), in addition they are essentially self insured via an arrangement with RSA. It is significantly cheaper to lease a car via Motability than it is under a personal/private car lease company.

System

bigbulldog wrote: »

UTTER TOSH......


There's no techinically about it as they DO pay for it.

And they also pay a lot less

Example Ford Focus diesel. Not a top of the range model by any way. To lease based on 10,000 miles per year and a 3 month initial payment comes out at £310 PLUS tax PLUS insurance. Via motability - £240 or thereabouts.

There are some people who are contributing to this thread who class anybody that questions ANYTHING to do with disability as he anti-disabled brigade. They do themselves and the disabled a great disservice if that is the sum total of their argument.

My previous post was not anti-disabled but a certain poster seems to have taken it that way, It was purely about the fantastic deal that can be got via the motability and that was the basis for the jealousy.
You realise that these people have nothing to say of any import when you get variations of the 'If you had what I have' in their response.

If you want to twist everything that isn't 100% pro into 100% anti then you need to question yourself and not others.

Indie_Kid

I get the impression that you're jealous. Although, why you'd be jealous of a disabled person being able to lease a car to get around, really is beyond me.

My parents lease their cars as it's easier than buying a car. They also get a new car every three years. They're not on motability either.

Starrystarrynight

Tell them you'd happily give them the car, along with the disabilities, pain, exhaustion, medication, side effects and limitations that are imposed on the disabled person.

Indie_Kid

myoldrocker wrote: »

Not every DLA HRM claimant suffers from 'pain, exhaustion, medication, side effects and limitations'. Many are able to work full time with little difficulty. All they had to show was that they had difficulty walking a given distance.

Unless I'm missing something, Starry didn't actually say that.

bigbulldog

myoldrocker wrote: »

Not every DLA HRM claimant suffers from 'pain, exhaustion, medication, side effects and limitations'. Many are able to work full time with little difficulty. All they had to show was that they had difficulty walking a given distance.

And I suppose you are all knowing what distance disabled people can walk without suffering severe pain.

bigbulldog

corf999 wrote: »

Motability pay no VAT on the new car (unless this has changed in last 2 years), in addition they are essentially self insured via an arrangement with RSA. It is significantly cheaper to lease a car via Motability than it is under a personal/private car lease company.

Just like disabled people can claim back there own vat on items(and I suppose you begrudge them that as well) they need to buy to have a much of a normal existence that they can have.

There does appears to be one or two posters on this thread are clearly full of envy .

TOBRUK

myoldrocker wrote: »

Not every DLA HRM claimant suffers from 'pain, exhaustion, medication, side effects and limitations'. Many are able to work full time with little difficulty. All they had to show was that they had difficulty walking a given distance.

I don't know if that is what you have heard about qualifying for HRM - That is just one aspect and is not as simple as that, it is more rigourous. They look into, (and have full access) your disabilities/illnesses, medical/hospital records, medication and more. 'Walking a distance' is just one tiny aspect to qualify for HRM and is a lot more complex. They have full access to your life and can aquire consultants reports etc.