Scottish independence

peleus

put some bankers in jail

That's true. I've read two articles in the past already about it. They seem to make those as a lesson I guess for future offenders.

mj132

Interesting article at http://www.worldlottery.net/news/the-national-lottery-and-scotland-what-would-they-lose-by-voting-yes.asp "A “yes” vote for Scottish independence on 18th September could mean that 5.3 million people would lose out on the opportunity to play EuroMillions, Lotto, Thunderball and instant win games. Even worse, tens of thousands of Scottish trusts, charities and initiatives may no longer benefit from the revenue raised by the Good Causes Fund if the country has to stop participating in the National Lottery, which maintains in their terms and conditions that players must be resident in the UK."

What are people's views on this?

eranou

mj132 wrote: »

Interesting article at http://www.worldlottery.net/news/the-national-lottery-and-scotland-what-would-they-lose-by-voting-yes.asp "A “yes” vote for Scottish independence on 18th September could mean that 5.3 million people would lose out on the opportunity to play EuroMillions, Lotto, Thunderball and instant win games. Even worse, tens of thousands of Scottish trusts, charities and initiatives may no longer benefit from the revenue raised by the Good Causes Fund if the country has to stop participating in the National Lottery, which maintains in their terms and conditions that players must be resident in the UK."

What are people's views on this?

http://wingsoverscotland.com/they-think-youre-stupid/

Glen_Clark

latecomer wrote: »

It was in the region of 10x the estimated cost. Not only that but its costing an average of £141,000 per month (yup per MONTH) in maintenance costs!

And thats just a building - imagine what they could do with an entire country :eek:
(source)
http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/cheaper-to-tear-down-scottish-parliament-by-2020-1-3265721

The Edinburgh tram system is about as bad.
(But since it has made it nigh on impossible to commute into Edinburgh by car, it will get enough passengers for them to claim its a success)

.string.

eranou wrote: »

http://wingsoverscotland.com/they-think-youre-stupid/

A quote from the Blues Book link:

In essence, the lottery has stolen Scotland’s wallet and then handed it back with a large chunk of the money missing, and the No campaign wants Scotland to be grateful for the gift.

:rotfl:

zeupater

mj132 wrote: »

Interesting article at http://www.worldlottery.net/news/the-national-lottery-and-scotland-what-would-they-lose-by-voting-yes.asp "A “yes” vote for Scottish independence on 18th September could mean that 5.3 million people would lose out on the opportunity to play EuroMillions, Lotto, Thunderball and instant win games. Even worse, tens of thousands of Scottish trusts, charities and initiatives may no longer benefit from the revenue raised by the Good Causes Fund if the country has to stop participating in the National Lottery, which maintains in their terms and conditions that players must be resident in the UK."

What are people's views on this?

Hi

As an outsider looking in on the debate without emotion or say, my view is irrelevant .... however, just to annoy both entrenched sides of any debate on this, here's my view anyway.

It's not beyond the intellectual ability of most to understand that rules for something that's only open to those resident in any particular country would exclude those who decide to not reside in that country and if the rules apply now, then they will equally apply later ......... unless they're changed with the specific agreement of all parties concerned .... the real issue isn't what can't be done, it's simply what's the likely solution?, who will provide it?, can it be delivered with the set timescale?, what will it cost?, is it affordable? and will it be as good? ....

HTH
Z

.string.

This was some time ago - nothing definite there and in any case not the end of the world; its more interesting as a warning of might happen also in the EU

Win independence but lose the lottery

talexuser

.string. wrote: »

a warning of might happen also in the EU

It will happen. Spain and Belgium, mindful of wanting to keep their own "independently leaning minorities" are never going to agree to accept an independent Scotland into the EU, since it represents the thin end of the wedge for those aspiratons.

MrCrimeFiction

I'm a no voter I'm afraid. Nothing to support that we will gain from anything. At least we are supported at the moment..

InvestInPoker

I believe it will be a reasonably substantial drop in UK equities if a "Yes" vote or a slight gain if a "No" vote.

Some other things will be negatively affected in the event of Yes vote in my opinion. Property prices in Scotland will fall and the pound will probably weaken slightly.

All of these things will recitify themselves in time, but this is my guess at what will happen in the immediate aftermath.

For those betting on the outcome please do not hedge your bets unless you believe that your 2nd bet is value in that the price does not reflect the actual chance of it happening. You are far better long run just letting the original bet play out if it was a value bet in the first place and the second bet is just to hedge.

Of course if its just for fun and you are spending money do whatever you want, I am just pointing out how to maximise your expectation when you have a positive EV situation with a bet. Hedging it with a -EV bet significantly cuts down on your return long term.