Scottish independence

colsten

JohnRo wrote: »

The great fear amongst the establishment, I suspect, is that an independent Scotland will show the cleptocrats running Westminster, and everyone else, how a parliament should be run for the benefit of the people it claims to represent.

Why should a scottish government be any different to any other democratic government in the world? What makes you think they would satisfy all their residents? If they did, why is there even a single No voter, let alone something like half the electorate? I rest my case.

JohnRo

A little hysterical, which speaks volumes. No Westminster government in modern history has satisfied the majority of the people, if a popular vote is the measure. For most of the time the figure hovers around a quarter to a third.

If that's the measure to beat then the bar is set very low on that score.

I'm not saying a future independent Scotland will be anything in particular and it looks likely we'll never know anyway.

The nature of the self serving psychopaths who seek high office suggests it'll be the same old story in all probability whatever happens, the fear amongst established cleptocrats is that it might just not be.

latecomer

JohnRo wrote: »

The great fear amongst the establishment, I suspect, is that an independent Scotland will show the cleptocrats running Westminster, and everyone else, how a parliament should be run for the benefit of the people it claims to represent.

I have to say the chances of independent Scottish government being any more effective than the UK government is unlikely at best. I made my mind up long ago and I cant see anything changing it. I have little faith in either side.....

ColdIron

JohnRo wrote: »

The great fear amongst the establishment, I suspect, is that an independent Scotland will show the cleptocrats running Westminster, and everyone else, how a parliament should be run for the benefit of the people it claims to represent.

Remind me of how over budget Holyrood was, more than 600% is the figure that springs to mind, a bargain for the people of Scotland

latecomer

It was in the region of 10x the estimated cost. Not only that but its costing an average of £141,000 per month (yup per MONTH) in maintenance costs!

And thats just a building - imagine what they could do with an entire country :eek:
(source)
http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/cheaper-to-tear-down-scottish-parliament-by-2020-1-3265721

Thrugelmir

talexuser wrote: »

Got to be some reaction to a yes, but if they vote for independence, and then refuse to accept any share of the national debt,

Sounds like Argentina all over again.

edinburgher

It looks like we're in good company

Blackbeard_of_Perranporth

Go




and take Liverpool with you

Glen_Clark

Just tell the SNP that if they want Scotland they will have to have Northern Ireland as well.;)

talexuser

Glen_Clark wrote: »

and yet we have already got a shared currency with Gibraltar, Falklands, Channel Islands, Isle of Man etc, all of whom have their own Governments.

I don't think any of those have an economy... or a welfare state... the size of Scotland, or depend on EU membership as much (the really admirable thing about Iceland was they actually put some bankers in jail).