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  • Fergie76
    Fergie76 Posts: 2,293 Forumite
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    You can report the abandoned car to the council. Someone parked outside my house (street parking) once for 6 months and it never moved once. I knew it wasn't any of the neighbours, so I reported abandoned, next day it was moved.

    It was apparently someone that lived down the road owned the car, but instead of keeping it outside their house, they decide to inconvenience me.
  • I-LOV-MONEY
    I-LOV-MONEY Posts: 1,279 Forumite
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    It has been reported (last week), but it maybe fun to see how many notices they get before it gets removed.

    I have put my note on cars that have been ticketed!

    I would like someone to advise if there is any difference between a council-owned and a private road for this purpose.
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  • bazster
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    It has been reported (last week), but it maybe fun to see how many notices they get before it gets removed.

    I have put my note on cars that have been ticketed!

    I would like someone to advise if there is any difference between a council-owned and a private road for this purpose.

    Do you mean for the purpose of removing abandoned vehicles? Yes there is a difference, on private land whilst the council has the power to remove abandoned vehicles they don't have an obligation to do so, so it's likely to take them a lot longer to get around to it.
    Je suis Charlie.
  • I-LOV-MONEY
    I-LOV-MONEY Posts: 1,279 Forumite
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    bazster wrote: »
    Do you mean for the purpose of removing abandoned vehicles? Yes there is a difference, on private land whilst the council has the power to remove abandoned vehicles they don't have an obligation to do so, so it's likely to take them a lot longer to get around to it.

    I meant the instruction by the Management Company for everyone to have a parking permit and hiring a PPC to issue tickets.
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  • bazster
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    I meant the instruction by the Management Company for everyone to have a parking permit and hiring a PPC to issue tickets.

    Yes of course there's a difference. Private companies can't ticket council-owned roads, unless they are simply the council's agent working within the statutory decriminalised parking enforcement regime.

    Conversely, council tickets are backed by statute (and councils can ticket private roads if they meet the definition of "highway") whereas private tickets are merely invoices with no statutory standing.
    Je suis Charlie.
  • bazster
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    The landowner (through his agent the management company if he wishes) can introduce whatever "rules" he wants on his own land. However, there are two huge caveats:

    - if a leaseholder or tenant has an agreement giving him certain rights over that land (e.g. parking on it) then the management company can't override that and
    - introducing rules is all very well but that does not mean they can penalise anyone for breaking those rules. Subject to the outcome of Beavis, the worst they can do is claim their (usually non-existent) losses, or in an extreme case obtain an injunction to prevent future transgressions.
    Je suis Charlie.
  • I-LOV-MONEY
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    bazster wrote: »

    - if a leaseholder or tenant has an agreement giving him certain rights over that land (e.g. parking on it) then the management company can't override that
    .

    Will need to check the lease as previously suggested. I suspect it will not say anything about parking.
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  • bazster
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    Will need to check the lease as previously suggested. I suspect it will not say anything about parking.

    They usually don't unless you have an allocated space (and even then often not!)
    Je suis Charlie.
  • I-LOV-MONEY
    I-LOV-MONEY Posts: 1,279 Forumite
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    I still have two other 'strings to my bow'. The signs are not clearly visible on the entrance to the road. One is on a side wall, which is not always noticeable as you drive in. Also, a lot of the signs are turned facing outwards or sideways (maybe the wind :)) and they are quite high up and the size of the detail about the parking restriction is IMO difficult to read.

    Are they BPA rules or regulations that the PPC have to comply with?
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  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,759 Forumite
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    I still have two other 'strings to my bow'. The signs are not clearly visible on the entrance to the road. One is on a side wall, which is not always noticeable as you drive in. Also, a lot of the signs are turned facing outwards or sideways (maybe the wind :)) and they are quite high up and the size of the detail about the parking restriction is IMO difficult to read.

    Are they BPA rules or regulations that the PPC have to comply with?

    You asked this in post #103 and I answered it in post #104 on 4 January. Please 'keep up'!
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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