Tesco consider adding the points of discarded receipt as theft

Edwood_Woodwood

BJV wrote: »

I am by no means as clever as some of you on the finer points of the law and some of the money saving tips I would never of thought of on my own but i think that it is really sad that MSE would endorse what in my eyes is tantamount to mis-representation.

The OP has not posted for a while and I have asked him to clarify several points.

It may just be a possibility that the OP simply asked could he have unwanted points put onto his card.

If this is the case, which I suspect is close to the reality, how on earth is it wrong, or a criminal action, to ask a question?

We already know Tesco have acted beyond how they themselves state they would in these kind of circumstances.

As it stands, just where is the mis-representation?

I could ask Tesco can I walk out of the store with a bottle of vodka and not pay for it?

I am asking, not doing.

What crime would I commit?

RuthnJasper

Cornucopia wrote: »

And a mega-thread is born...

Alas, Corni, I fear you are as spot-on as ever. Such threads become tedious to all save the involved antagonists - and suggest to the casual browser that this is not a forum in which to seek impartial, non-judgmental, help. Again.

powerful_Rogue

Edwood_Woodwood wrote: »

Oh dear, I thought I was only teaching you law and not also the english language!

http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/taken?showCookiePolicy=true


Word forms: takes, taking, took, taken
(mainly transitive)

1.(also intransitive) to gain possession of (something) by force or effort


Time to bail out now chappy?:rotfl:

Dear oh dear. Resulting to petty shots now!

"I have taken my wife to the shops" - Does that mean I forced her into the car and dragged her around the shops? Or can it also mean she wanted to goto the shop and I facilitated the journey?

The fact your placing so much emphasis onto single words to try and make your argument fit is very petty.

No need to teach me law, I have a good understanding of it thank you.

powerful_Rogue

prowla wrote: »

So who is the injured party then?

Fraud by misrepresentation - see post 6

(i)to make a gain for himself or another, or

(ii)to cause loss to another or to expose another to a risk of loss.

powerful_Rogue

Edwood_Woodwood wrote: »

The OP has not posted for a while and I have asked him to clarify several points.

It may just be a possibility that the OP simply asked could he have unwanted points put onto his card.

If this is the case, which I suspect is close to the reality, how on earth is it wrong, or a criminal action, to ask a question?

We already know Tesco have acted beyond how they themselves state they would in these kind of circumstances.

As it stands, just where is the mis-representation?

I could ask Tesco can I walk out of the store with a bottle of vodka and not pay for it?

I am asking, not doing.

What crime would I commit?

Changing the situation yet again.

Strangely though I agree - If the OP went to the CS desk and said "Ive found this receipt, can I have the points added to my clubcard" - then it would not be fraud by misrepresentation.

However, with the lack of details posted by the OP, if he tried to pass the points off as his own, which I think is more likely the case here, I stick to my original post.

Cornucopia

This is interesting - it becomes more about the technique employed rather than the intent or any assumptions about what might happen in the future.

gik

Edwood_Woodwood wrote: »

Oh dear, I thought I was only teaching you law and not also the english language!



http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/taken?showCookiePolicy=true


Word forms: takes, taking, took, taken
(mainly transitive)

1.(also intransitive) to gain possession of (something) by force or effort


Time to bail out now chappy?:rotfl:

That is one definition. How many others were there? My wife has taken me....and there was no need for force I assure you!

bod1467

gik wrote: »

That is one definition. How many others were there?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/taken has 107 entries spread across Noun, Verb (with object) and Verb (without object). (Not including verb phrases). Eewahwoowah's selection is number 3 in that list.

Cornucopia

gik wrote: »

That is one definition. How many others were there? My wife has taken me....and there was no need for force I assure you!

Some of the possible definitions don't work in the context of the OP's post.

For example, if the OP had been the recipient of hot security guard lovin', they would have said they were taken by the SG *in* the back room, not *to* the back room.

Whilst the language is ambiguous, I think we can all imagine there being an element of coercion involved.

powerful_Rogue

Cornucopia wrote: »

Some of the possible definitions don't work in the context of the OP's post.

For example, if the OP had been the recipient of hot security guard lovin', they would have said they were taken by the SG *in* the back room, not *to* the back room.

Whilst the language is ambiguous, I think we can all imagine there being an element of coercion involved.

I certainly wouldn't agree with that based on the information given. Im sure if the OP was forced to goto the back room they would have highlighted this in the original post.

You have your opinion, however mine is the OP was asked to go with the guard to the back office, in which the OP could have refused, but clearly didn't.