Baptism meeting with father

Gloomendoom

notanewuser wrote: »

In a very basic sense, yes.

Here's plenty of thought about that. You'll perhaps see why I didn't attempt any of these explanations on this thread.

http://www.ted.com/conversations/8051/is_consciousness_a_brain_chemi.html

Interesting quote from that link...

"Supernatural" is a useless term , meaning, really, things we don't understand yet.

Gloomendoom

Mojisola wrote: »

Does it make okay because it happened a long time ago?

Yes, because by the standards of the time, people didn't know any better.

WillowCat

missbiggles1 wrote: »

I doubt very much that anybody defines themselves as Christian just because they were baptised as babies! Your prejudice and lack of tolerance is affecting the way you see things, I'm afraid.

I once had a heated argument with my grandmother who was telling me I had to put christian on a form requesting my religion. Her argument was that I had to be christian as I had been christened. I put atheist anyway.

Torry_Quine

WillowCat wrote: »

I once had a heated argument with my grandmother who was telling me I had to put christian on a form requesting my religion. Her argument was that I had to be christian as I had been christened. I put atheist anyway.

I'm with you, having been christened is not what makes you a Christian. I do think some people need to really think about what being a ***** (insert faith of choice here) means.

Brighton_belle

Torry_Quine wrote: »

I'm with you, having been christened is not what makes you a Christian. I do think some people need to really think about what being a ***** (insert faith of choice here) means.

Agreed, thanks Torry.


MargaretClare, I enjoyed your post, thanks.

margaretclare

About pagans, I have no problems with them. I cannot answer for what people did centuries ago. I've been blamed for the slave trade, the Irish potato famine and the Highland Clearances before now. I refuse to take responsibility for things that happened centuries ago. My ancestors were desperately poor and on the edge of starvation themselves. I doubt if they did anyone any harm, they were too busy surviving. But they did go to their local church, and maybe it was a comfort to them.

SDWE, DH became a Christian before that 'near death' experience, if you can call it that. I suppose being a Christian made it easier for him to recognise Who it was who spoke to him.

My philosophy is simple, summed up in this quote:

'He prayeth best who loveth best
All things both great and small
For the dear God who loveth us
He made and loveth all'.

Gloomendoom

I'm still waiting for the Italians to accept responsibility and apologise for the excesses of the Roman Empire.

Don't get me started on those barbaric Scandinavians. I've just read about the Vikings on the internet and I'm never going to IKEA again.

Butchers!

notanewuser

I'm still waiting for someone to answer the question of how it benefited child from a non-practising, non-religious family to be baptised into the Christian faith.

Gloomendoom

notanewuser wrote: »

I'm still waiting for someone to answer the question of how it benefited child from a non-practising, non-religious family to be baptised into the Christian faith.

Maybe you are approaching it from the wrong angle.

Perhaps ask how it benefitted the parents. After all, Baptism as an infant is unlikely to negatively impact a child in any way.

shegirl

notanewuser wrote: »

I'm still waiting for someone to answer the question of how it benefited child from a non-practising, non-religious family to be baptised into the Christian faith.

The question is how can it harm you.The answer is it can't