Baptism meeting with father

shegirl

notanewuser wrote: »

Erm, there are PLENTY of cases of children dying because their religious [STRIKE]nut[/STRIKE] parents refuse medical help believing that God's will is more important. There are plenty of children mutilated, abused and beaten because of religious teachings.

Way to go in doing your best to blow it all out of proportion and relate anything like that to being baptised into any Christian faith!

notanewuser

shegirl wrote: »

Way to go in doing your best to blow it all out of proportion and relate anything like that to being baptised into any Christian faith!

Just responded to your point. You said it couldn't kill you, I've proven otherwise.

mountainofdebt

notanewuser wrote: »

Just responded to your point. You said it couldn't kill you, I've proven otherwise.

And no-one could call you argumentative could they???

Torry_Quine

onomatopoeia99 wrote: »

I was taught it at school. "Original sin" was the concept, arising from the fall of Adam and shared amongst all humanity from birth. Baptism cleanses it meaning that a baby that has been baptised can enter heaven while one that hasn't will spend eternity in purgatory.

Is it still taught by that church I wonder? Genuine question, is this Catholic as I know that they used to think that but I though that was in the past? To me it's very sad that anyone would say that a non-baptised child will not go to heaven.

The concept of original sin is still very much taught but baptism (in my understanding) is only symbolic and has no bearing on your eternal destiny.

System

I think me and my siblings were christened mainly because my grandparents were religious and regular church goers so i think it was expected. I did attend church sometimes and went to the mother and todler group with my nan, and me and my sisters were all in rainbows, brownies and guides so we did have some religious imput. Personally any faith i did have i think i lost with my grandparents, and consequently if i ever have children i don't think i would have them baptised, however if they chose to do that when they were older that would of course be their choice.

jaylee3

shegirl wrote: »

Way to go in doing your best to blow it all out of proportion and relate anything like that to being baptised into any Christian faith!

Should have known that a thread remotely related to Christianity would go down the route it has. The non believers just love ANY reason to bash Christians don't they?

Like I said earlier, I find some atheists much more rude and argumentative and judgemental than any Christian I have ever met! And certainly a lot more obnoxious! They just HAVE to tell people how stupid they are for believing, and how 'wrong' they are.

And they're so vocal about their sheer hatred for Christians and come out with so much vitriol and bile about Christianity and religion.

Makes me wonder why.

coolcait

onomatopoeia99 wrote: »

I was taught it at school. "Original sin" was the concept, arising from the fall of Adam and shared amongst all humanity from birth. Baptism cleanses it meaning that a baby that has been baptised can enter heaven while one that hasn't will spend eternity in purgatory.

Technically, an unbaptised baby would have spent eternity in limbo, rather than purgatory.


However, the concept of 'limbo' has now been consigned to, erm, limbo, as it was found to reflect an "unduly restrictive view of salvation".


Nevertheless, the same report stated that this finding should not be used to "negate the necessity of baptism or delay the conferral of the sacrament".


I offer this as a technical view only, and make no comment on the OP's choices - or anyone else's choices - in respect of baptism.

Alchemilla

I was just going to say what coolcait said. The change was a few years ago.

lostinrates

jaylee3 wrote: »

Should have known that a thread remotely related to Christianity would go down the route it has. The non believers just love ANY reason to bash Christians don't they?

Like I said earlier, I find some atheists much more rude and argumentative and judgemental than any Christian I have ever met! And certainly a lot more obnoxious! They just HAVE to tell people how stupid they are for believing, and how 'wrong' they are.

And they're so vocal about their sheer hatred for Christians and come out with so much vitriol and bile about Christianity and religion.

Makes me wonder why.

I was baptised, am no longer a practising, or at all a Christian, but have great respect and affection for the upbringing I had. My husband was circumcised, and likewise, is culturally respectful and warm towards his ( and Christianity which impacted him equally culturallyreally, do to where he lived) cultural heritage. Somethings we would have passed on had we had a child.

Furthermore, I think its quite sweet that Mormons want to save people by baptising posthumously. It doesn't offend me in the least, it means nothing to me, despite my own spirituality, but good will, and if people are prepared to attempt to save me in anyway it seems to me very poor will and negative to be rude about it. In any spiritual way being rude and ungracious is a negative energy for the one being so at least! Any one of any faith is welcome to bless, pray, save me in anyway they would like, so long as I am as as little impacted by it as I am by my baptism.

seven-day-weekend

The main culprit on this site for being rude to religious people, in particular Christians, and calling them names and insulting their intelligence has been PPR'd However I have a feeling there will be plenty more where he came from!