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  • dibuzz
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    I struggle with the phone too, when someone says "just ring up" I want to scream. I can't "just" ring up it takes a lot of working up to and leaves me shaking and stressed.
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  • haybel19
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    Well what a day.. bit fed up ... actually a lot fed up as likely to need further surgery... Kinda knew but didnt actually want to hear it!!! :(
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  • Waves_and_Smiles
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    edited 29 September 2014 at 8:57PM
    Good evening!

    Good luck JM! You can do it!

    Good luck to you too, duke! We will all be thinking of you!

    What a lovely thing for your DD to say, whitewing! That is a huge compliment!

    Big hugs haybel, you know I am thinking of you.

    Well done on reading the whole thread, oystercatcher! That deserves an award in its self! Pop in anytime, there is nearly always someone here if you need/want a chat.

    I have an upset stomach, no idea why-probably some condition messed up. WaSp offered to put a tent up in the bathroom as I am living in there so much. Otherwise I am ok. I will reply to your post about therapy whitewing, as soon as I stay out of the bathroom for 10 minutes...

    Oh, and thank you for the link! I ordered the Stoptober package! I haven't had a real cig for 8 days now and funnily enough I find e-cigs stronger? They make me dizzy like smoking used to at the beginning which is odd to say the least! I may need to cut down on the strength...
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  • whitewing
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    8 days without a real cigarette. That is great. It must be improving your health, lol!

    Perhaps you caught a bug from the seaside, WaS. (But I don't want to put you off going again).

    I have a slight headache, which is unusual. Got looming deadlines.
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  • Waves_and_Smiles
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    edited 29 September 2014 at 8:52PM
    On the therapy question everyone has agreed that further treatment, even CBT would be dangerous. I am going to sound as mad as a box of frogs here, but I have been turned down by a lot of therapists (that is the most disheartening but hilarious situation ever). What has always happened is they then refer on to the Tavistock Clinic in London who are the heavy duty therapists of the UK. My first psychoanalyst said it was too much for him and referred me there and they did see me for two years, with therapy 5 days a week which helped a lot but now they are refusing all further help. Incidentally if anyone has previously has psychotherapy I do recommend psychoanalysis. It is beyond intense, an hour a day Mon-fri so you do not have time to switch off from each session but it works very well. You need to have had psychotherapy first, though because the analysts presume that you know how it works and throw you in at the deep end. It can be very disconcerting to have a therapist staring at their lap and refusing to make eye contact while sitting in silence unless you know the procedure.

    The Tavistock Clinic have written twice to my consultants saying that it is too much of a risk, not because I am just that mad but because there are too many unpredictable conditions that overlap each other. They didn't feel it was possible to treat one without triggering another with dangerous results. The only possible solution they had was for me to have intensive therapy as an in-patient for a year, but even then they advised against it due to the catatonia and the fact I need stimulation to stay focused.

    The only psychiatric professionals who have been willing to 'take me on' have been those with a specific speciality in my conditions. Like Sterling Moorey who specialised in using a combination of CBT and psychotherapy for people who had physical illnesses that could relate to biochemical mental imbalances or my first therapist who was a specialist in using psychoanalysis with abused teenagers. Professionals with no specific training refuse me, I always remember one therapist who listened for an hour and said "I am completely out of my depth." I did consider replying "Oh, so I'll just jump out the window then..." I liked her for her honesty, though. My current consultant has an interest in childhood PTSD and has apparently written up my case for a Psychiatric Journal, he is always very interested and I am hoping he stays around or I may end up back at the Tavistock Clinic again. I have also had therapists and psychiatrists who's immediate reaction is to hospitalise me indefinitely which I hope it is clear that I don't need, to be fair to them they just don't know what to do with me.

    Ordinary counselling is next to useless for me because not only am I trained in it, I have had 16 years of more intensive therapy already and know exactly what will be said. Personally, I would have therapy again although I do agree that there is little left that could teach me. I have had 5 years CBT and I know what I am supposed to be doing-frankly I am lazy with it because it means a lot of recording on charts and scoring anxiety and it's hard work! Once I have finished the CBT exercises for my psychiatrist I may give it another go, though. I already have all of the sheets so it's just a question of knuckling down to it.
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  • Pyxis
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    No need for a tent, WaS! You can sleep in the bath!
    Seriously, though, I wonder what you ate? Hope it wasn't the seaside fish'n'chips!

    Waves and Smiles and Whisper.
    WaS's Whisper.
    WaS 'n' Whisper.
    Hmm. Nice ring to it.

    I'm imagining WaS 'n' WaSp 'n' Whisper living by the sea. WaS 'n' Whisper both venturing out at night to go down to the beach when there's no-one else there.
    (I don't think Sir Pugliet would mind; he'd see Whisper as his big brother!)


    I feel a pome coming on!............

    WaS 'n' WaSp 'n' Whisper, *
    Living by the sea,
    WaS 'n' WaSp 'n' Whisper * gobbling
    Fish 'n' chips for tea!

    WaS 'n' WaSp 'n' Whisper,*
    On the beach at night,
    Watching boats a-bobbing
    'Cross the sea to Isle of Wight!

    (* and Sir Pugliet. He wasn't left out; he just wouldn't scan!)

    Gosh WaS! If ever there was a pet made for you................:)




    Hello Haybel. Sorry to hear you may need surgery. :( Is it likely to be soon?
    How are LO and Max?
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  • Hahahahaha! I love that Pyxis! He would be my perfect companion!

    It could just be IBS or something else went wrong over night. It's more annoying than anything, not really causing me any suffering.
    Until one has loved an animal a part of one's soul remains unawakened - Anatole France

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  • haybel19
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    Pyxis wrote: »

    Hello Haybel. Sorry to hear you may need surgery. :( Is it likely to be soon?
    How are LO and Max?

    Really not sure have to wait on seeing the consultant again- have already had two surgeries to fix me up so rather gutted to potentially be having a third!!!

    Little one and Max are well thanks. Both up to their usual mischief!
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  • We will all be here supporting you haybel when it happens. You really are so brave to have endured so much and to be facing this again.
    Until one has loved an animal a part of one's soul remains unawakened - Anatole France

    If I knew that the world would end tomorrow, I would still plant apple trees today - Martin Luther King
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