driving slow : your views ?

nobbysn*ts

Buellguy wrote: »

not really


http://www2.potsdam.edu/alcohol/DrivingIssues/20060830105036.html#.U5ccZV0U8y8


I'm assuming you don't drink and drive, well using the mobile phone is probably worse

That proves my point. "as their attention switched between driving and conversing," so it's not the mobile phone that causes a problem, it's exactly the same as any conversation in a car, and personally, I have no problem talking to passengers and driving. I agree, if you don't feel you have enough awareness to drive and talk, don't, but don't carry any passengers either.

nobbysn*ts

IanMSpencer wrote: »

..............Another classic tailgate scenario is at night where you can follow a car more easily than when you are in front on an unlit road. I've been monstered by someone who feels I am not driving quickly enough, and then have had to sit behind them instead (which is far easier as you get the visibility of their lights in addition to yours and to see where they are going............

That's a common policy with the sheep who only have the ability to speed, so long as they're not at the front. They haven't the confidence to overtake, but if they finally muster up enough courage, they realise they haven't the confidence to get up to the speed their imagination told them they could drive at, if only the car in front would go faster.

Jamie_Carter

nobbysn*ts wrote: »

That proves my point. "as their attention switched between driving and conversing," so it's not the mobile phone that causes a problem, it's exactly the same as any conversation in a car, and personally, I have no problem talking to passengers and driving. I agree, if you don't feel you have enough awareness to drive and talk, don't, but don't carry any passengers either.

There is actually a big difference between having a conversation with a passenger, and having a conversation on a phone. This is mainly because a passenger can see the traffic conditions, and will therefore understand if you pause to concentrate on difficult conditions. Someone on the end of the phone won't.

Jamie_Carter

IanMSpencer wrote: »

And when I am driving my Vito at 50mph, am I supposed to speed up to an unlawful 60 to keep the motorist behind's blood pressure suitably low?

The general advice on overtaking is when you can't overtake you should be following at the 2 second rule. If there is an opportunity coming up to overtake you can position yourself closer, but if the opportunity disappears, drop back again. If you can't overtake within the speed limit, then don't overtake. You are clearly not going to gain that much time if the car in front is doing 55mph.

Who on earth told you that???


If you move closer to the vehicle in front, then your visibility is reduced, making it far more dangerous to overtake.


If you keep a safe distance behind, then you will have far better visibility. You will also be able to accelerate up to your overtaking speed, and spend as little time as possible actually overtaking.

nobbysn*ts

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

There is actually a big difference between having a conversation with a passenger, and having a conversation on a phone. This is mainly because a passenger can see the traffic conditions, and will therefore understand if you pause to concentrate on difficult conditions. Someone on the end of the phone won't.

Again, the difference between you and me. I see the road conditions, I pause if I need to. I don't need a spotter watching the road for me. Same as if they're in the car, I can talk to them regardless, I don't need to check they're looking forwards, and not reading the paper. Well unless it's a broadsheet, then I can't see the mirror, or out of their window.

Jamie_Carter

nobbysn*ts wrote: »

Again, the difference between you and me. I see the road conditions, I pause if I need to. I don't need a spotter watching the road for me. Same as if they're in the car, I can talk to them regardless, I don't need to check they're looking forwards, and not reading the paper. Well unless it's a broadsheet, then I can't see the mirror, or out of their window.

Wrong...the difference between you and me is that I see the results on a regular basis when people who like yourself think that they can drive just as well whilst having a conversation on the phone.


The big difference is that if you pause, or stop listening whilst you concentrate on traffic conditions, then a person sat next to you knows why. If they are on the phone then they don't know why. For this reason most people tend not to pause, or stop listening. To think that you are different is probably just ignorance.

nobbysn*ts

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

Wrong...the difference between you and me is that I see the results on a regular basis when people who like yourself think that they can drive just as well whilst having a conversation on the phone.


The big difference is that if you pause, or stop listening whilst you concentrate on traffic conditions, then a person sat next to you knows why. If they are on the phone then they don't know why. For this reason most people tend not to pause, or stop listening. To think that you are different is probably just ignorance.

Wrong, the fact that's how you need to hold a conversation doesn't mean the rest of us do. If you're more worried about what the person on the phone thinks about you, then you are concentrating on the road in front, I agree, you shouldn't use a phone, and you know your limits, which is good.

Cornucopia

You could be the exception that proves the rule.

But the evidence suggests that talking on a mobile, even hands-free, is much more dangerous than most people think.

nobbysn*ts

Cornucopia wrote: »

You could be the exception that proves the rule.

But the evidence suggests that talking on a mobile, even hands-free, is much more dangerous than most people think.

Not really, as per the link posted about, all the evidence shows is that talking is dangerous, not how it's done. Whether the person is in the car or not really has no effect. That's why there is minimal enforcement by the police.

skitler

Cornucopia wrote: »

You could be the exception that proves the rule.

But the evidence suggests that talking on a mobile, even hands-free, is much more dangerous than most people think.

its for his type that the rehabilitation courses are aimed at instead of paying the fine, however they are to stupid though to accept the offer as they think they know more than the instructor. lets hope he has had the snip early in life and his nuts arnt all there as his user name suggests.