driving slow : your views ?

iltisman

I have noticed a great reluctance to overtaking these days , perhaps those who charge up behind and braking could spend a bit of time practicing overtaking.

Buellguy

iltisman wrote: »

I have noticed a great reluctance to overtaking these days , perhaps those who charge up behind and braking could spend a bit of time practicing overtaking.

Part of the problem could be that if you come up behind someone e.g. doing 45-50 in a NSL, you go for an overtake, now, I was taught (by a police officer) to carry out the overtake as quickly as possible, after all you are on the opposite side of the road and a danger to yourself and other road users in that position. Overtake the person and return to the speed limit. Unfortunately in these days of speed cameras some people are unwilling to exceed the speed limit at all, thus making for slow (and dangerous) overtakes or no overtaking at all. This is due to the discretion of the officer being removed (ok sir, I saw you exceed the speed limit by 10-15mph, however you were making an overtake at the time did it safely and then returned to the speed limit, well done now carry on) to the 'computer says he has exceeded the limit by 10mph, therefore must get a ticket', more points on licence and possible ban.


Bring back more real traffic officers (might catch the idiots on phones then!!)

UsernameAlreadyExists

That and the fact that double white lines are getting longer and longer and longer. I think ultimately they're just wanting to connect up all the villages along decent A-Roads and be done with it.

nobbysn*ts

Buellguy wrote: »

Part of the problem could be that if you come up behind someone e.g. doing 45-50 in a NSL, you go for an overtake, now, I was taught (by a police officer) to carry out the overtake as quickly as possible, after all you are on the opposite side of the road and a danger to yourself and other road users in that position. Overtake the person and return to the speed limit. Unfortunately in these days of speed cameras some people are unwilling to exceed the speed limit at all, thus making for slow (and dangerous) overtakes or no overtaking at all. This is due to the discretion of the officer being removed (ok sir, I saw you exceed the speed limit by 10-15mph, however you were making an overtake at the time did it safely and then returned to the speed limit, well done now carry on) to the 'computer says he has exceeded the limit by 10mph, therefore must get a ticket', more points on licence and possible ban.


Bring back more real traffic officers (might catch the idiots on phones then!!)

Phones are fine. I talk to people in the car, and still drive, I can program the sat nav, or switch cd's, I'm perfectly safe to use a mobile and drive. The police generally tend to ignore this stupid bit of legislation, quite rightly.

skitler

Buellguy wrote: »

Part of the problem could be that if you come up behind someone e.g. doing 45-50 in a NSL, you go for an overtake, now, I was taught (by a police officer) to carry out the overtake as quickly as possible, after all you are on the opposite side of the road and a danger to yourself and other road users in that position. Overtake the person and return to the speed limit. Unfortunately in these days of speed cameras some people are unwilling to exceed the speed limit at all, thus making for slow (and dangerous) overtakes or no overtaking at all. This is due to the discretion of the officer being removed (ok sir, I saw you exceed the speed limit by 10-15mph, however you were making an overtake at the time did it safely and then returned to the speed limit, well done now carry on) to the 'computer says he has exceeded the limit by 10mph, therefore must get a ticket', more points on licence and possible ban.


Bring back more real traffic officers (might catch the idiots on phones then!!)

you had the answer in your own statement.


there are many thousands more traffic on the roads than there was when the hwc was written. however the underlying rule still holds true. safety 1st.

Buellguy

nobbysn*ts wrote: »

Phones are fine. I talk to people in the car, and still drive, I can program the sat nav, or switch cd's, I'm perfectly safe to use a mobile and drive. The police generally tend to ignore this stupid bit of legislation, quite rightly.

not really


http://www2.potsdam.edu/alcohol/DrivingIssues/20060830105036.html#.U5ccZV0U8y8


I'm assuming you don't drink and drive, well using the mobile phone is probably worse

Buellguy

skitler wrote: »

you had the answer in your own statement.


there are many thousands more traffic on the roads than there was when the hwc was written. however the underlying rule still holds true. safety 1st.

Hence the overtake should be completed as quickly as possible, which a lot of people are unwilling to do due to the possible presence of speed cameras. Ergo, less overtaking and probably a rise in tailgating etc

skitler

Buellguy wrote: »

Hence the overtake should be completed as quickly as possible, which a lot of people are unwilling to do due to the possible presence of speed cameras. Ergo, less overtaking and probably a rise in tailgating etc

oh I see, "I cant overtake so ill talegate and bully."


if you overtake the car in front, will that now give you a clear road to drive how you it should be done, or will you come upon another vehicle. and have to over take again and again and again, constantly as you said your self, " after all you are on the opposite side of the road and a danger to yourself and other road users in that position".

when will the penny drop.?

Buellguy

skitler wrote: »

oh I see, "I cant overtake so ill talegate and bully."


if you overtake the car in front, will that now give you a clear road to drive how you it should be done, or will you come upon another vehicle. and have to over take again and again and again, constantly as you said your self, " after all you are on the opposite side of the road and a danger to yourself and other road users in that position".

when will the penny drop.?[/QUOTE


So you are saying that I should never carry out a manoeuvre that is perfectly legal


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Do not overtake unless you are sure it is safe and legal to do so. Overtake only on the right. You should:

• check your mirrors
• take time to judge the speeds correctly
• make sure that the lane you will be joining is sufficiently clear ahead and behind
• take a quick sideways glance into the blind spot area to verify the position of a vehicle that may have disappeared from your view in the mirror
• remember that traffic may be coming up behind you very quickly. Check all your mirrors carefully. Look out for motorcyclists. When it is safe to do so, signal in plenty of time, then move out
• ensure you do not cut in on the vehicle you have overtaken
• be especially careful at night and in poor visibility when it is harder to judge speed and distance.

My argument is that by doing it quickly you minimise risk. people are unwilling to carry out this manoeuvre quickly due to the presence of speed cameras thus making the manoeuvre more dangerous.


If I came across several people doing e.g. 30 in an NSL then yes, I would IF IT WERE SAFE TO DO SO overtake them, next question

paulturner

I drive a taxi in Norfolk and generally it does not matter what speed you are doing, the car behind will want to overtake you.

Often I will be doing 60 on a 60 limit road and get overtaken even if it means they have to go over chevrons or double white lines.

Slow drivers are not bad drivers, any more than fast drivers are good drivers.