Anyone else on a diet and struggling?

JBD

You could still add a massive green salad, for only a few extra calories (assuming you don't add mayonnaise or oil).
Tinks, when is your next weigh in?

adouglasmhor

jomt321 wrote: »

Yes it is, but it is worse than that.

Here is a criticism of peer review, existentially it is a closed system, self regulation the kind of regulation that in effect is no regulation.



Bit hard to read but in short peer review leaves a lot to be desired.

This is a key paragraph

"But we know that the system of peer review is biased, unjust, unaccountable, incomplete, easily fixed, often insulting, usually ignorant, occasionally foolish, and frequently wrong."

Problem is it is done behind closed doors.
That is always a big problem.

So again, no resemblance to what you said, and also, that article was just someones opinion. :rotfl:

Also not done behind closed doors, reviews are published. What would you do to improve the system? What would be bettter than scientists putting their work up to the scrutinnt of other scientists in their field?

adouglasmhor

Tink2 wrote: »

Vinegar gives me heartburn

Yet it is one of the main ingredients of mayonaisse!

paulineb_2

Cloudydaze wrote: »

I'm astounded that anyone on a low calorie diet would waste calories on pastry. If you are restricting calories, you need to make sure ALL those calories have a nutritional value.

I'd ditch the pastry & eat half the topping with a massive green salad.

If people look at the slimming world thread on here (slimming world has already been praised earlier in the thread by a professional), you'll see that not everyone on that thread eats calories that have a high nutritional value.

Some of the foods that people can eat on the slimming world plan are free so they dont need to be weighed and measured, white rice, white pasta. Theres not high nutritional value in those but people still eat them and lose weight, sometimes lots of it.

Also, taking aside the syns and the syngery of the slimming world plan, it tries to get people to eat reasonably healthily, hence the promoting of fruit and veg, but its clear for a lot of people when they switch to that plan, they'll also be reducing calories compared to what they ate before.

Sometimes people save up their syns for treats such as alcohol, but many people have a treat a day, crisps, chocolate.

You dont need to make sure that all calories have a nutritional value when restricting calories. If you did people wouldnt be able to eat anything that was slightly higher in fat, calories, sugar etc. They do.

paulineb_2

paulineb wrote: »

Im never ever posting my portions on here, thats all I can say

Although I cooked half a sweet potato tonight and left the other half uncooked.

Shock horror. Actually, Ive not eaten very much today, I dont eat anything on a Sunday morning as I do a thump boxing class at 11am and if I ate breakfast and did the class after it would not be pretty.

Not had crisps in a few days and Im losing the inclination to have any. Also not drinking alcohol either.

Id also like to say incase I didnt explain it very well last night that what I actually meant was Im never posting my portion sizes on here (because I eat a lot). Nothing more than that.

adouglasmhor

Cloudydaze wrote: »

I'm astounded that anyone on a low calorie diet would waste calories on pastry. If you are restricting calories, you need to make sure ALL those calories have a nutritional value.

I'd ditch the pastry & eat half the topping with a massive green salad.

I would make a spud free "rosti", any combo of any from carrots, sweet potato, parsnip, celeriac, turnip, florence fennel just about any root veg instead of spud grated up with onion and garlic.

JBD

The thing is, people can and do lose weight without eating an optimum diet. Pre -'obesity epidemic' days people just ate what was available, what they could afford and made the most of it. People did eat pastry, bread, potatoes, pasta etc. No one counted calories, carbs or protein. They just ate less and were over all more active.
That's why I don't really stress over what I'm eating, or buy books or follow specific diet plans. A little bit of common sense goes a long way, IMO.
When I initially lost weight (nearly 3 years ago) I ate the things that everyone says are so bad for you - weightwatchers low fat yoghurts. I ate 1 or 2 every single day for months, and still lost weight. That's just an example really - there are no real rules. Just do what suits you best.

JBD

adouglasmhor wrote: »

Yet it is one of the main ingredients of mayonaisse!

The main ingredients are egg yolks and oil. You only need a tiny amount (or non in some recipes) of vinegar.
That's just recipes for home made though. It might be different in the one Tinks is using.

adouglasmhor

JBD wrote: »

The main ingredients are egg yolks and oil. You only need a tiny amount (or non in some recipes) of vinegar.
That's just recipes for home made though. It might be different in the one Tinks is using.

It's the first listed ingredient after water in Lighter than light though.
I just looked at mine.
I have had mayo made with lemon juice instead.

~Chameleon~

paulineb wrote: »

If people look at the slimming world thread on here (slimming world has already been praised earlier in the thread by a professional), you'll see that not everyone on that thread eats calories that have a high nutritional value.

I think you misunderstood what I said. I certainly didn't praise Slimming World. What I did say, however, was that out of all the commercial style diets it was the only one I felt had some use and actually tried to promote healthy eating in a way that none of the others do. I've seen many people do very well on it but then that was in most part because the food choices they made were healthy ones. Certainly none of the rubbish like tinned ravioli, hot dogs or some of the other things I think you previously mentioned.

The reason I don't like Weight Watchers isn't so much down to the system they use but in main because of the food products they promote and sell which may be low in fat but are also packed with sugar in most cases so are often far less healthy than ordinary branded goods.

People need to take responsibility for the food they put in their mouths. If they decide to swap out healthy nutritional food for chocolate, crisps, pastry, pizza etc regardless of whether they fit the number of calories or syns they're allowed each day then they are cheating no one but themselves at the end of the day.