Parking Eye - Panic

captainhindsight_2

bod1467 wrote: »

... unless this was specifically allowed in the planning consent for the Aldi car park.

if you can show me a planning consent where the local authority have included a condition where they have said to the landlord that you have to provide free parking for everybody in perpetuity with no restrictions I would be very interested and amazed

Hot_Bring

captainhindsight wrote: »

if you can show me a planning consent where the local authority have included a condition where they have said to the landlord that you have to provide free parking for everybody in perpetuity with no restrictions I would be very interested and amazed

He didn't say or imply that. Bod responded to your accusation that it was wrong to use a private car park to then shop elsewhere - you didn't mention time limits at all in that post. You said :

"That is exactly what i am saying, the op had no intention of using the car park to shop at aldi. The car park is for the customers of aldi not the general public to use as free parking to go around town"

And to answer your question but without the time limit bit - yes I can - Aldi Portslade. The council insisted that their car park be able to be used by ANYONE even if they don't shop at Aldi. Obviously within the time limit of 2 hours ( something Aldi have tried to get reduced to 90 minutes three times and failed ).

fivetide

Hot_Bring wrote: »

And to answer your question but without the time limit bit - yes I can - Aldi Portslade. The council insisted that their car park be able to be used by ANYONE even if they don't shop at Aldi. Obviously within the time limit of 2 hours ( something Aldi have tried to get reduced to 90 minutes three times and failed ).

So if someone uses that Portslade car park and overstays the time limit are they being scammed or rightfully 'fined' for breaking the rules as they would be if they were on a parking meter?

Hot_Bring

fivetide wrote: »

So if someone uses that Portslade car park and overstays the time limit are they being scammed or rightfully 'fined' for breaking the rules as they would be if they were on a parking meter?

Given the landowners loss is zero and not £70 I'd suggest scammed.

captainhindsight_2

Hot_Bring wrote: »

Given the landowners loss is zero and not £70 I'd suggest scammed.

The landowners loss is not zero, the landowner is loosing revenue by cars being parked for longer than has been agreed.

Hot_Bring

captainhindsight wrote: »

The landowners loss is not zero, the landowner is loosing revenue by cars being parked for longer than has been agreed.

Then they need to prove that loss. That loss does not include the cost of signs, HQ employees etc yet PE try to claim it does.

Aldi break planning conditions and Parking Eye break contract law - how can it not be a scam ?

captainhindsight_2

Hot_Bring wrote: »

Then they need to prove that loss. That loss does not include the cost of signs, HQ employees etc yet PE try to claim it does.

Aldi break planning conditions and Parking Eye break contract law - how can it not be a scam ?

How have aldi broken planning permissions by allowing 2 hours of free parking?

I don't understand what parking eye have done wrong, by clearly stating that you will be fined if you stay over 2 hours and then fining people when they stay over 2 hours. Seems pretty simple! :wall::wall:

The loss is true patrons cannot access the store if the car park is full of cars staying over the two hours, thus a loss in revenue and profits for aldi, loss passed onto landlord at rent renewal what else do you need?

Hot_Bring

captainhindsight wrote: »

How have aldi broken planning permissions by allowing 2 hours of free parking?

Portslade is only a single example there are others but Aldi were taken to court for reducing the parking time allowed without council permission ...... they were found guilty and fined.

spikyone

fivetide wrote: »

So if someone uses that Portslade car park and overstays the time limit are they being scammed or rightfully 'fined' for breaking the rules as they would be if they were on a parking meter?

As I implied previously - and with apologies for misunderstanding the Captain - the problem is that companies such as PE only make a profit (or any revenue) in free car parks by charging people extortionate sums for breaches of their own "rules". These rules are set up unilaterally by the party that stands to gain the most from them, often with no regard to planning permission or equality law. That same party has no interest in the land, which belongs to another party entirely, other than raking in these "fines". The PE case in Cambridge, where PE pay the landowner a significant sum of money to 'manage' the car park, only serves to prove how deeply immoral things are in PPC-world.
Then consider that charging people after the event cannot possibly manage the car park (the horse has long sine bolted when they are supposedly shutting that door).

So whilst I don't condone deliberate abuse of parking facilities, those who ask for help on here have not wronged the PPC in any way. I believe those people should be empowered to fight back against a corrupt and immoral industry that does more harm than good for the shopping centres and retail parks it infests.

bod1467

I would ask Captain & Tennille what the name of this website is, specifically the S, and with that known then ask why should we tell people to just pay these speculative, unenforceable invoices?