Parking Eye - Panic

Hot_Bring

captainhindsight wrote: »

Aldi may not like it, but its upto the landowners to do make a profit from their investments

By breaking planning conditions ?

ColliesCarer

@captainhindsight

If you are going to quote other posters

captainhindsight wrote: »

Hot_Bring wrote: »

Aldi don't like it and they sometimes ignore it but that is the way it is.

Aldi may not like it, but its upto the landowners to do make a profit from their investments

then at least quote them in context

Hot_Bring wrote: »

It doesn't make the charge any more lawful. The whole industry is a SCAM. They have reaped what they sowed.

Let's also remember that some Aldi car parks allow you to park there WITHOUT using the store thanks to council planning permission. Aldi don't like it and they sometimes ignore it but that is the way it is.

The point Hot Bring was making was that a number of Aldi stores have been given planning permission for their car park on the proviso that it is not restricted to just Aldi customers but is available for the general public to use too.

captainhindsight_2

ColliesCarer wrote: »

@captainhindsight

If you are going to quote other posters



then at least quote them in context



The point Hot Bring was making was that a number of Aldi stores have been given planning permission for their car park on the proviso that it is not restricted to just Aldi customers but is available for the general public to use too.

Ok, but this won't be unrestricted access for the public to park for as long as they like

spikyone

captainhindsight wrote: »

Ok, but this won't be unrestricted access for the public to park for as long as they like

Perhaps not, but then it's not unknown for PE to set their arbitrary time limits lower than required by the planning permission, or for them to fail to take into account that a motorist's disability could increase the amount of time they need to shop. If you were cynical, you might suggest these are deliberate tactics employed by a company who has a vested interest in ensuring they maximise the number of overstays in free car parks because it's the only possible way they can make money.

And if you want to be taken seriously on here, you would be well-advised to stop trying to equate breaches of imaginary rules in a car park (where motorists are invited to park) with trespassing on someone's driveway where Joe Public is clearly not invited to park.

captainhindsight_2

spikyone wrote: »

Perhaps not, but then it's not unknown for PE to set their arbitrary time limits lower than required by the planning permission, or for them to fail to take into account that a motorist's disability could increase the amount of time they need to shop. If you were cynical, you might suggest these are deliberate tactics employed by a company who has a vested interest in ensuring they maximise the number of overstays in free car parks because it's the only possible way they can make money.

And if you want to be taken seriously on here, you would be well-advised to stop trying to equate breaches of imaginary rules in a car park (where motorists are invited to park) with trespassing on someone's driveway where Joe Public is clearly not invited to park.

What terrible people trying to make a profit by enforcing the rules they outline on massive signs in the car park.

Ok, my local newsagents has a car park they are inviting joe public to park there and they have no signs restricting parking. As they do not have any signs saying I can't, by your logic I can park there all day.

ColliesCarer

@captainhindsight

Clearly you have a bit of a bee in your bonnet about the public's vs landowners' rights.

Maybe you are a landowner who is having problems - but if you want to pontificate please create your own thread and stop hijacking this one - it is bad etiquette as is advised in the forum rules you signed up to when you registered.
Or do those just apply to everyone else?

spikyone

captainhindsight wrote: »

What terrible people trying to make a profit by enforcing the rules they outline on massive signs in the car park.

So let's get this straight. You have no problem with a company who makes a profit solely by making up "rules" - however unreasonable or unlawful they may be - then charging people who break those "rules". I think your moral compass needs calibrating.

captainhindsight wrote: »

Ok, my local newsagents has a car park they are inviting joe public to park there and they have no signs restricting parking. As they do not have any signs saying I can't, by your logic I can park there all day.

Not sure how that follows from my logic. Or how your newsagent, presumably the landowner, has anything in common with a PPC, who are neither landowner nor tenant.

fivetide

spikyone wrote: »

So let's get this straight. You have no problem with a company who makes a profit solely by making up "rules" - however unreasonable or unlawful they may be - then charging people who break those "rules". I think your moral compass needs calibrating.
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I'm not seeign that. I think the Captain is putting himself over badly but what I am getting is:

- If you have genuinely been scammed by these people and their arbitary rules, then fight all the way.

- However, if your intention was to break the rules in the first place/take the mick by trying to enjoy some free parking when you shouldn't have done then you can't complain if you get caught.

There do have to be some rules, whilst I have battled the parking companies myself on two occasions, I do appreciate that for someone to use land with no intention of using the store attached it is difficult to be sympathetic when they then get found out.

If they hadn't tried this then they would have had to do the same as many others and simply pay in a proper car park.

Like I said, no sympathy for the parking firms but I don't think that is what the Cap'n is saying. As a result, I don't think ti is his moral compass that needs a reset to north.

captainhindsight_2

That is exactly what i am saying, the op had no intention of using the car park to shop at aldi. The car park is for the customers of aldi not the general public to use as free parking to go around town

bod1467

captainhindsight wrote: »

The car park is for the customers of aldi not the general public to use as free parking to go around town

... unless this was specifically allowed in the planning consent for the Aldi car park.