Shops closing early and locking the doors!

Pollycat

Podge52 wrote: »

Unfortunately with unemployment at the level it is it's an employers market, and some employers will take advantage of that.

If you're not prepared to work extra hours for nothing they will simply sack you and get somebody else who is.

I understand that.

It's the OP stating it annoys him that I can't understand.

Pollycat

lifemagic wrote: »

Imagine if surgeons did this. You wake up with a gaping hole and your intestines showing, and the nurse explaining it went on past five pm. so 'e's gone 'ome.

Comparing surgeons to someone on NMW working in a shop is hardly comparing like-for-like though, is it?

BBQ141

Pollycat wrote: »

Comparing surgeons to someone on NMW working in a shop is hardly comparing like-for-like though, is it?

The way some of these retail workers bang on you would think they are doing lifesaving jobs every day though...

Pollycat

BBQ141 wrote: »

The way some of these retail workers bang on you would think they are doing lifesaving jobs every day though...

I've not heard any retail workers 'bang on'.......


'Bang on' about what?

Money-Saving-King

lifemagic wrote: »

Imagine if surgeons did this. You wake up with a gaping hole and your intestines showing, and the nurse explaining it went on past five pm. so 'e's gone 'ome.

I can imagine if people who work in basic retail roles got paid the same amount as surgeons get paid they'd probably stay to do whatever & the stuff they have do to isn't even life threatening, isn't that nice of them!

Seriously though your post is again a classic example of a simplistic and ignorant point of view/attitude to anyone who works in retail.

Money-Saving-King

BBQ141 wrote: »

The way some of these retail workers bang on you would think they are doing lifesaving jobs every day though...

What bang on like the way you and the op have?

vyle

lifemagic wrote: »

Imagine if surgeons did this. You wake up with a gaping hole and your intestines showing, and the nurse explaining it went on past five pm. so 'e's gone 'ome.

There's a big difference:

Retail is paid for the time.

Surgeons and many other jobs are on salary, meaning you're paid for the job.

During my time on salary, I did work past the expected clocking off time, because my job description was to provide a particular service to my employer, and whether I stayed late one day, or came in later the next, it made no difference because I was paid the same amount. In those instances, staying late to finish something would actually be more beneficial than leaving it to the next day.

In retail, there's very little time where that is the case, and you're paid for being there, nothing more. If you stay late, you still have just as much work load the next day. You still have to arrive at the same time, leave at the same time, and anything you stayed later to do counts for nothing.

System

I have friends that work on Sundays in a supermarket.

Every Sunday at 3:45pm, it's the same customers week in, week out that swan in the store shopping. Despite the various tannoys informing the store is closing in 15/10/5 mins and then closed, these customers aren't bothered. Fortunately, they are contracted to 4:15pm. But those 15 mins between 4-4:15 are for cleaning the tills, cashing up self scans, topping up bags and other things for the following day's trade.

They still have to do all these jobs once the customers have cleared off.

They do not get any overtime or lieu in the future.

marliepanda

Once I was working after close (yes we were paid after close sometimes, but there was plenty to do, not serving customers)
and there was a basket of groceries on a til at about 4.10. Nobody about, so I set off to put them all back or bin any cold produce. The customer was not very happy when she returned ten minutes later to find all her shopping was away and she was sent out with nothing! Oh well...

System

I have worked in call centres. If I was finishing my shift before the close of the lines, it was very common for me to get a call 3 mins before my shift ended and was a 20-30 min call. Most calls I got were 3-4 mins.

We weren't allowed to log off until the time on the phone said 59 or 29 mins past as it took a min to log out all the systems.

But my employer was fair as gave us lieu time every 2 months of all these 20 mins here, 10 mins, there. I remember one time, I had 2.5 days lieu.

I never once terminated a call because it was past my finishing time..