YouTube idiots

thelawnet

adouglasmhor wrote: »

I left school 3 decades ago. I didn't see anyone agreeing to fight in private, and grown ups have grown up rules.

Exactly that. I remember when I got my first job, aged around 18, just walking home from work a couple of times I had people say 'what are you looking at' or similar, and try to start a fight.

As I've got older though, that doesn't happen.

thelawnet

I thought that should be obvious to anyone. A car is much more dangerous to a bicycle, and it's absurd to suggest that the same standards should apply.

This obviously annoys some people, but it's what it is.

custardy

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custardy wrote: »

Get away? To the next set of lights you mean.
The driver evidently had time to get out of the car though? So no hurry.
its amazing how many drivers in a hurry have time to argue when it suits.
I think you need to relook at the video and watch the Audi. He was legally behind the line.
Cyclists were legally entering the ASL from the left.
He forced his way into the ASL. The fact you see nothing wrong with this demonstrates the warped logic
THe ASL is there to aid cyclists in a safe transition through the junction.
What other rules can i ignore in the car when it suits me?
As I said the cyclist was a !!!! in his behaviour. However only one person instigated it.

So the car occupants are being unfairly singled out for their behaviour?
Are we deciding assault is now a minor thing?

I have 20+ years of driving experience
Am I not allowed a view?

sinbad182

thelawnet wrote: »

I thought that should be obvious to anyone. A car is much more dangerous to a bicycle, and it's absurd to suggest that the same standards should apply.

This obviously annoys some people, but it's what it is.

Way to completely miss the point.

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The whole thread has been about the relative conduct of the motorist and cyclist in that video, and whether their respective behaviours were consistent and appropriate with the situation.

Your basic standard of conduct, and how it influences possible conflict situations, should be to the same level whether you're driving a car, riding a bike, or flying a plane.

thelawnet

No it hasn't. The post I was responding to was a pot-shot at custardy for his wider opinions on cycling.

Your basic standard of conduct, and how it influences possible conflict situations, should be to the same level whether you're driving a car, riding a bike, or flying a plane.

That's meaningless, and untrue. For example, if I am on my bike I might decide to 'race' another cyclist, i.e. put a bit more effort into catch him up. Nothing wrong with that. But a 747 pilot wouldn't do that, and a car driver generally shouldn't either.

sniffles

I was happy when that cyclist got bopped. But then, I am a fan of "life on mars". I just hate Lycra clad "men" who are aggressive because the got bullied at school and use their PC rights. Send them to war I say. That would get rid of their puny aggressive natures.

thelawnet

I think the man here was wearing a suit.

sinbad182

How are you finding such a simple point this difficult to understand?

Nothing in the video in question happened due to the fact one party was in a car and one was a bike. It was the cyclists behaviour that escalated a minor traffic violation beyond all recognition, not the respective driving and cycling habits of said individuals.

The same level of general public behaviour should be expected from everybody, whether they're on a bike or in a car.

Are you getting it now, or are you going to keep blithering on about planes being more dangerous than mopeds etc?

custardy

sinbad182 wrote: »

How are you finding such a simple point this difficult to understand?

Nothing in the video in question happened due to the fact one party was in a car and one was a bike. It was the cyclists behaviour that escalated a minor traffic violation beyond all recognition, not the respective driving and cycling habits of said individuals.

The same level of general public behaviour should be expected from everybody, whether they're on a bike or in a car.

Are you getting it now, or are you going to keep blithering on about planes being more dangerous than mopeds etc?

once more.
you see minor.
However its indicative of the attitude some motorists show towards cyclists.
What had the cyclists done to make the Audi driver want/feel the need to move forward?
IMO moving into an occupied ASL is far worse than failing to stop at the stop line(thats what it is you know?) in the first place.

sinbad182

custardy wrote: »

once more.
you see minor.

As does anyone who isnt trying to exaggerate the situation beyond on recognition to try and validate the shakey point they're trying to make.

However its indicative of the attitude some motorists show towards cyclists.

Its indicative of the general apathy 99% of people in cars, on bikes, on foot or anything really have towards traffic rules they deem safe to break. It's not right, but everyone does it. Are you suggesting the average citizen should put themselves in danger by confronting all of these run of the mill, everyday occurrences?

What had the cyclists done to make the Audi driver want/feel the need to move forward?

What did the pedestrian do the the cyclist that runs over a crossing on a red? Or the motorist who drove at 35 in a 30? People are confronted by lapses in road discipline every day - again, should they be putting themselves in danger and verbally abusing the culprit, potentially escalating minor, every day incidents into full on conflict?

IMO moving into an occupied ASL is far worse than failing to stop at the stop line(thats what it is you know?) in the first place.

No, its really not. See my first point re. your ott interpretation of the event in order to push your agenda.

Seriously, grow up and look at the incident and the suitability of its response through a real world perspective