Boyfriend bought me a ring but won't let me have it

Pollycat

paulineb wrote: »

The argument is that it's ok for someone to be Christian and not go to church and it's fine to celebrate Easter and Christmas but if you don't believe in god somehow you are awful because you don't buy your child an egg to celebrate a Christian event.

I'm not sure I see the logic in that. If it's ok for Christians who don't celebrate Christmas and Easter to do so, why is it not ok for someone who doesn't believe in god not to celebrate it.

Because a kid might feel left out getting a chocolate bar or a box of chocs rather than an egg shaped bit of chocolate?

They'll grow up scarred because their chocolate wasn't egg shaped? Maybe it's time to call social services.

TBH, Pauline, I don't see why there is an 'argument' at all.

Surely people are allowed to celebrate Christmas or not, buy Easter eggs or not without having to defend themselves on a public forum - especially on a thread about a guy who's bought an engagement ring but not given it to his partner yet.

To be clear, I have no issue with your posts, I just can't understand someone (not you) deciding to berate another poster for the way they conduct their life.

seven-day-weekend

Pollycat wrote: »

TBH, Pauline, I don't see why there is an 'argument' at all.

Surely people are allowed to celebrate Christmas or not, buy Easter eggs or not without having to defend themselves on a public forum - especially on a thread about a guy who's bought an engagement ring but not given it to his partner yet.

To be clear, I have no issue with your posts, I just can't understand someone (not you) deciding to berate another poster for the way they conduct their life.

Absolutely. It should not be an issue whether someone buys Easter eggs or not, whatever their beliefs (especially on a discussion about an engagement ring!).

onlyroz

Buzzybee90 wrote: »

I just think it's respectful to ensure everything is well with the parents, I doubt many people would call off their proposal if the dad said no. And I doubt many dads would say no.

Not everything is a war against sexism/ any other ism.

And you would also seek permission from his parents?

My brother apparently asked permission from his wife's dad for "his daughter's hand in marriage" and he laughed his socks off.

paulineb_2

Pollycat wrote: »

TBH, Pauline, I don't see why there is an 'argument' at all.

Surely people are allowed to celebrate Christmas or not, buy Easter eggs or not without having to defend themselves on a public forum - especially on a thread about a guy who's bought an engagement ring but not given it to his partner yet.

To be clear, I have no issue with your posts, I just can't understand someone (not you) deciding to berate another poster for the way they conduct their life.

I absolutely agree. There have been similar comments on other threads about people who didnt care one way or the other about Peaches Geldofs death (and I wasnt one of them, I said on the thread I was really sorry), had to be people who hated and the word hated was used, Christmas, Valentines, the Royal Family.

As I said on that thread, Im no royalist, but how do people manage to say with conviction that if you dont do one thing or two things, then you are a certain type of person and will hate this that or the other.

Look above and there you see the word hate said yet again. Who is anyone to decide how a person lives their life and whether they hate something or not. Just because someone doesnt celebrate Easter of Christmas doesnt necessarily mean they hate it. They may not care for it one way or the other.

paulineb_2

jaylee3 wrote: »

Must admit, I have never met anyone in real life, who does not celebrate Christmas, unless they are Jehovahs/Muslim, or some other religion other than Christian/Catholic.

Even people who are atheist celebrate Christmas: not necessarily in a massively big fashion with spending 1000s of pounds, sometimes just quietly and cheaply with close friends and family, but they DO do Christmas, and they certainly don't deprive their children of it.

But I have never ever met anyone who snubs Christmas and Easter etc, not in real life. I have only ever seen people on the internet that 'claim' they 'don't do Christmas,' and their children (if they have any,) don't appear to have any choice in the matter, as they have to follow what the parents do, and are told, as soon as they can walk and talk that SANTA and the Easter bunny do NOT EXIST!

Actually, I know a few people who practice other religions, who still 'allow' their children to partake in Christmas at school. Presumably, they don't want their children to feel like freaks and misfits, not being allowed to be part of Christmas and Easter because their parents 'don't do' these celebrations.

I do often wonder however, how many who claim this are actually telling the truth? Because as I said, I have never met anyone in real life like this, unless they practice another religion. (And as I mentioned earlier, even people who celebrate other religions still let their kids get involved with Christmas and Easter at school.)

Maybe you should do some reading about the church of the 7th day adventists and similar religions. Christians who dont celebrate Easter or Christmas and their sabbath falls on a Saturday. Just because you havent met them, doesn't mean they don't exist.

Theres a big difference between a few people you know who practice other religions allowing their kids to celebrate Easter and Christmas at school and what every child does worldwide.

paulineb_2

Oh and as for the original topic, I would hazard a guess that as the OP hasnt come back on to update us, she didnt come back from the weekend engaged.

The more this situation drags out, the more Id be wanting not to be engaged.

Georgiegirl256

paulineb wrote: »

Oh and as for the original topic, I would hazard a guess that as the OP hasnt come back on to update us, she didnt come back from the weekend engaged.

The more this situation drags out, the more Id be wanting not to be engaged.

Same here.

Here's hoping that it did take place and she's all loved up and planning the wedding....but somehow, I don't think so.

paulineb_2

Georgiegirl256 wrote: »

Same here.

Here's hoping that it did take place and she's all loved up and planning the wedding....but somehow, I don't think so.

No, I dont either. To be honest I think shes been keen to get married, he isnt. The OP made a comment on another thread about how someone she knew had got engaged and posted the news on facebook and her partner wasnt bothered. My feeling is, he doesnt want to be engaged or married, wants them to go on as they are and believes if he just leaves it, then things will return to being the way they were.

I could be totally wrong, but hes had the ring how long now? 7 months. Im sure many people who propose to their partners cant wait to do it and are really excited about it. He isnt coming across as being excited about any of this.

Why he bought the ring, god knows. (or the flying spaghetti monster or whatever is appopriate)

HPoirot

Georgiegirl256 wrote: »

Tell my husband that! :rotfl:

Wasn't sure why OH was looking so mournful the past few days but last night I brought him back a sackful of eggs of all sizes and now he is a happy bunny.

Georgiegirl256

HPoirot wrote: »

Wasn't sure why OH was looking so mournful the past few days but last night I brought him back a sackful of eggs of all sizes and now he is a happy bunny.

A sackful?! My husband would love you for ever if he got given a sackful! :rotfl: Actually, come to think of it, we do have nearly that amount sitting in the kitchen....:p Got a good deal from Thorntons and then my parents bought us a few....you're never too old for Easter Eggs! :EasterBun