Noisy people in flat above me.

Own_My_Own

Dan-Dan wrote: »

Poor parent alert ..........

^^^ I'm always right even when I'm wrong alert .......^^^

notanewuser

Dan-Dan wrote: »

Healthy and active children ,especially at 3 years old are tucked up in bed by 8pm.

3 year olds running about at 10 pm have doubtless got parents who you pay good money not to live near

You're wrong, but don't feel you need to apologise.

http://www.huffpost.com/us/entry/4467562/

PS - we're just back from a torchlit 3 mile star-gazing walk with our 3 year old daughter, who is now deciding what she wants for dinner. Healthy, active and an absolute delight.

Norman_Castle

Three year olds running around is normal, if you don't want the noise of children then don't live in a flat or a semi-detached property with thin walls.

If you have children, don't presume the rest of the world should accommodate them. Children can be noisy. They can also allowed to do whatever they like. The OPs neighbors attitude points to the latter.

Twisted_Cherry

kashmirigirl wrote: »

I live in a ground floor flat, the people above me have a 3 yr old child. The flats haven't got very good sound proofing. In short I understand that living in a ground floor flat I'm going to hear the people above, which is fine, I accept that but for sometime now the people above have basically been taking the !!!! by banging about and letting the child run around until about 10 at night.

In one of our earlier chats I asked her if she could hear my telly during that conversation I mentioned that I could hear her quite a bit etc, especially the child, she said that she understood and that the child was very heavy on her feet.

For about 2 weeks the noise was unbearable so I had a little word with her and asked if she could keep the noise down a bit as I found that I wasn't getting any peaceful evenings after work. Her reply was I pay the rent so I will make as much noise as I want. I was quite shocked by her reply so just said ok that's fine, I don't want to fall out, we will leave it at that - you know how I feel.

So now which way do I turn when she makes noise, don't feel as though I can say anything more to her as I feel her reply will be the same - do I contact the landlady??

All I want is for her to give me some kind of consideration. I know you can't tie the child to a chair but I do feel a child running around the flat for a couple of hours is a bit much. I'm out 5 days a week 9 until 6 so she has plenty of time to run around then. The child goes to bed about 15 to 20 mins before I turn in so I don't get much quite time.

Please don't say move as this is not an option.

Thanks for reading.

Your story sounds very much mine.

I moved into a new build ground floor flat some years back, and signed a tenancy, one of the rules of the tenancy was that there were no children allowed under the age of 10. Those over the age of 10 on access visits only.

I had noise issues from the two adults living above me from the start, mainly the male living there. Then they had a baby 8 months after they moved in... and the noise increased. When the child reached about 12 months old and started running around things became unbearable. Tie that in with the man living there and it was often hell.

I won't go into massive details, but the long and short of it is. I complained, several others living in the flats complained. The noisy neighbours got issued with THREE warnings over a period of 18 months for breeching there tenancy agreement and anti-social behaviour. They where aware another warning would mean the housing would have started legal proceedings to evict them.

It also got to the stage where both I and the neighbour above them had recording equipment installed by the council, which picked up the noise they were creating. When the noisy neighbours were fronted with this, they decided to move...

That was the best day of my life the day I heard they were moving from the anti-social behaviour officer and I waved them off! The flat was empty for six weeks. My new neighbour is much quieter and I am living here happy again!

You have rights. First off are you a Council Tennant or Housing Association? If neither contact Environmental Health at the council. Keep diary sheets, ask other residents in the block of flats if they have any issues with noise from that flat.

Check out this website and forum, they are a friendly bunch of people... and will give advice, help and point you in the right direction!

http://www.noisyneighbours.net/

I have been incredibly unlucky because 2 or the 3 properties I have lived on I have experienced anti-social behaviour, but finally I am content!

You have rights, people think there children can do as they please. As much as parents of children living in flats think there children can run around, YOU HAVE rights to live in peace in your own home.

You are best to deal with your local Environmental Health Department, regardless of who you rent from. They are the ones who have the power to serve 'Noise Abatement Notices' on your neighbours, but YOU must gather evidence and keep records of the noise. You can also take legal action yourself.

I also recommend ear plugs!

notanewuser

Norman_Castle wrote: »

If you have children, don't presume the rest of the world should accommodate them. Children can be noisy. They can also allowed to do whatever they like. The OPs neighbors attitude points to the latter.

She could live below a drum player, a trumpeter, a hard-of-hearing person that needs the television up loud, an exercise enthusiast that does 500 star jumps at 5am every morning in high heels............

Kynthia

Norman_Castle wrote: »

The OPs neighbors attitude points to the latter.

We can't know how annoying and sanctimonious the OP was to the mother before she resorted to saying what she did. They may have repeatedly complained about their child making noise that can't be eliminated completely, may have been rude or like others have on this thread commented on their parenting. They clearly never said it the first time the OP complained.


The upstairs neighbours aren't playing load music late, shouting, being aggressive, having lots of parties, so what can they do? Sometimes living in a flat means putting up some noise and soon the child will grow out of heavy footed running around and will start sleeping more traditional hours.

Norman_Castle

notanewuser wrote: »

She could live below a drum player, a trumpeter, a hard-of-hearing person that needs the television up loud, an exercise enthusiast that does 500 star jumps at 5am every morning in high heels............

All would be considered a noise nuisance. Why should a parent who is unwilling to control their childs noise be any different?

Norman_Castle

We can't know how annoying and sanctimonious the OP was to the mother before she resorted to saying what she did. They may have repeatedly complained about their child making noise that can't be eliminated completely, may have been rude or like others have on this thread commented on their parenting. They clearly never said it the first time the OP complained.

We also don't know if she was immensely polite so lets not make assumptions.

notanewuser

Norman_Castle wrote: »

All would be considered a noise nuisance. Why should a parent who is unwilling to control their childs noise be any different?

How - without gagging them and tying them to a chair - do you control the noise a young child makes??

Norman_Castle

notanewuser wrote: »

How - without gagging them and tying them to a chair - do you control the noise a young child makes??

You tell them to be quiet. How do you control anything a child does. If you need to gag and tie children to a chair you might consider parenting classes.