Sensitive first post

jellyhead

claire16c wrote: »

Pictures of often half faked foetuses could upset women who very much want babies who happen to be going past. That's sick & just shows they have no real consideration for other people.

At a hospital, some of the women going past will be those who have just miscarried, or are worrying that a miscarriage has started, and those with a 'missed miscarriage' going back 2 weeks later desperately hoping that this time there will be a heartbeat. Just after my miscarriage I was upset by a picture in an email that I'd forgotten to unsubscribe from. It looked too much like what I'd handed over for testing.

Also, there will be women who feel that a termination is a sad necessity, and it's cruel to shove those pictures in their faces. I doubt that many women make the decision to terminate lightly, and they know what they are doing - in some cases they've even seen the scan.

By all means campaign for the 24 week limit to be reduced, or for more counselling, or better information about the alternatives, or for increased uptake in adoption or fostering rates, or for reducing the red tape so that more people are accepted for adoption. Does standing outside a clinic with a placard actually reduce the abortion rate? I doubt it.

System

I think tiddlywinks won't be happy until we all just abstain from sex....(no chance of pregnancy there huh?)

Which 3 methods can you even use together?!

jellyhead

Tiddlywinks wrote: »

No - women taking responsibility for their contraception will solve unwanted pregnancies...

Some might argue that a termination is taking responsibility for contraceptive failure. Some might say it's a more responsible thing than bringing a child into the word for the state to pay for, or for the care system to be overloaded with.

OPs contraceptive has worked effectively for what, a decade, and her OH is planning to get the snip. It's not as if she has been having unprotected sex.

jellyhead

xXMessedUpXx wrote: »

I think tiddlywinks won't be happy until we all just abstain from sex....(no chance of pregnancy there huh?)

Which 3 methods can you even use together?!

A femidom with a condom ... would there be friction?

When we've had abortion discussions before some have said that they consider both the morning after pill and the coil to be a form of abortion.

moneysniffer

Tiddlywinks wrote: »

If you only use the pill you need to understand there there is a very real risk of pregnancy.

The pill is not 100% effective.

If, as with the OP, pregnancy is absolutely the last thing you want... take some responsibility and use a 'belt and braces' approach.

This situation was entirely preventable.

Well, in that case, I hope you don't drive. It isn't 100% safe, you need to understand you could lose control and kill an entire family tomorrow.

Best stay indoors from now on, be on the safe side eh?! Take some responsibility...

lostinrates

xXMessedUpXx wrote: »

I think tiddlywinks won't be happy until we all just abstain from sex....(no chance of pregnancy there huh?)

Which 3 methods can you even use together?!

Pill' condom and spermicide?

Coil, condom spermicide?
Injection condom spermicide (can you tell I thought and then got stuck on a theme)?

My other theoretical options included rhythm method, and withdrawal. But if you're using a physical barrier, a hormone one and something else too I don't see these would be of significant benefit other than mindful approach.

( I ha e no idea if those would actually be recommended together btw, I don't use the coil and found the pill didn't suit me so have not used other hormonal methods of contraception )

Arthien

lostinrates wrote: »

Pill' condom and spermicide?

Coil, condom spermicide?
Injection condom spermicide (can you tell I thought and then got stuck on a theme)?

The only other option I could come up with was cap, condom, pill, but a bit of googling suggests hardly anyone uses a cap anymore, so maybe not!

System

lostinrates wrote: »

Pill' condom and spermicide?

Coil, condom spermicide?
Injection condom spermicide (can you tell I thought and then got stuck on a theme)?

My other options included rhythm method, and withdrawal. But if you're using a physical barrier, a hormone one and something else too I don't see these would be of significant benefit other than mindful approach.

( I ha e no idea if those would actually be recommended together btw, I don't use the coil and found the pill didn't suit me so have not used other hormonal methods of contraception )

Ahh hadn't thought of spermicide, probably because I can't remember the last time I actually saw it in a shop alongside condoms and such (thought don't the extra safe condoms have spermicide? I recall having an allergic reaction to it )

Plus the rhyme method is probably less safe than using hormonal and condoms!

lostinrates

xXMessedUpXx wrote: »

Ahh hadn't thought of spermicide, probably because I can't remember the last time I actually saw it in a shop alongside condoms and such (thought don't the extra safe condoms have spermicide? I recall having an allergic reaction to it )

Plus the rhyme method is probably less safe than using hormonal and condoms!

But could be used in combination with them for a third method.

pops5588

Sorry Tiddlywinks, I must've missed the post where you gave out your medical qualifications. I certainly don't remember my GP telling me in a single one of our conversations over the last 9 years about contraceptive methods to find 3 different methods and use them in a 'belts and braces' fashion.

Good grief...