Seller appears on doorstep...

powerful_Rogue

Flyonthewall wrote: »

How about:

-Male forced by wife to take parcel he couldn't care less about
-Male has long drive to destination. Maybe gets cut up by some bad drivers on the way, has work on his mind, meetings to get to etc.
-Gets to OP house
-OP opens door and says in surprise that they didn't expect him, they thought it was being posted
-Male, already annoyed, feels he has wasted his time and just gets angry
-Male walks off, gets in car and drives away

Quite possibly. Just as:

- Male knocks on door.
- OP answers and says "Cant you read? No cold callers" as she aggressively points to the sign.
- Male says "Sorry, Ive only come to drop off the item you won on ebay"
- OP replies "Looks like your wife cant read either because I said I wanted it posted, not dropped off. Im going to leave you negative feedback because of this.
- "Sorry, no need to be rude" the male replies.
- "Go away" OP says as she slams her front door shut.

theonlywayisup

Flyonthewall wrote: »

How about:

-Male forced by wife to take parcel he couldn't care less about
-Male has long drive to destination. Maybe gets cut up by some bad drivers on the way, has work on his mind, meetings to get to etc.
-Gets to OP house
-OP opens door and says in surprise that they didn't expect him, they thought it was being posted
-Male, already annoyed, feels he has wasted his time and just gets angry
-Male walks off, gets in car and drives away

But at the end of the day, by virtue of having a front door, you therefore invite people to call at it, not by direct invite but implied, when they feel they wish to. Like it or lump it, there's not much you can do.

People CAN knock at your door, with permission or not. By having a front door and path/route to it, the invitation is 'implied'. The OP would be hard pressed to show she/he 'suffered' by having the door knocked by a person delivering an item (irrespective of how or if he is associated with the seller).

This thread is just too ridiculous, there a huge grip on reality needed by a lot of people on it.

I'm out.

Flyonthewall

powerful_Rogue wrote: »

Because people lie to get the response they want sometimes.

OP wants to complain the male turned up with her item despite her telling the seller she didnt want it hand delivered. This is the original complaint.

I doubt the OP would tell us she was rude, aggressive and threatning as it would take away some empathy from her story.

They wanted advice on a situation, they weren't looking for a specific response.

Ok, but what if the OP doesn't give a damn about empathy or getting people to give a specific response eh? What if this is a genuine, honest person who has told their situation as it was and simply wants advice?

You're judging and assuming for no reason. Why try and make it seem like the OP is lying and all when you've nothing to suggest that? Why see the bad instead of just giving advice?

Flyonthewall

powerful_Rogue wrote: »

Quite possibly. Just as:

- Male knocks on door.
- OP answers and says "Cant you read? No cold callers" as she aggressively points to the sign.
- Male says "Sorry, Ive only come to drop off the item you won on ebay"
- OP replies "Looks like your wife cant read either because I said I wanted it posted, not dropped off. Im going to leave you negative feedback because of this.
- "Sorry, no need to be rude" the male replies.
- "Go away" OP says as she slams her front door shut.

Yeah but why assume it's that way? What if the OP is telling the truth and all you're doing is suggesting their lying and spamming their thread? You've nothing to suggest it's any other way.

Flyonthewall

theonlywayisup wrote: »

But at the end of the day, by virtue of having a front door, you therefore invite people to call at it, not by direct invite but implied, when they feel they wish to. Like it or lump it, there's not much you can do.

People CAN knock at your door, with permission or not. By having a front door and path/route to it, the invitation is 'implied'. The OP would be hard pressed to show she/he 'suffered' by having the door knocked by a person delivering an item (irrespective of how or if he is associated with the seller).

This thread is just too ridiculous, there a huge grip on reality needed by a lot of people on it.

I'm out.

You people think about the meaning of doors far too much...

But whatever, the message of no removed any implied invitation.

Just because you can not understand it doesn't mean that it's not affecting someone else, it's not true or that they need to get a grip on reality.

powerful_Rogue

Flyonthewall wrote: »

Yeah but why assume it's that way? What if the OP is telling the truth and all you're doing is suggesting their lying and spamming their thread? You've nothing to suggest it's any other way.

Why assume its the other way where the OP did nothing wrong and the big bad man was standing on the door step shouting, threatening the OP and being rude??

Again, theres two sides to every story. Without the other side, I take some of what the OP said with a pinch of salt. The OP must have said something to make the male react the way he apparently did.

chancesare_2

Flyonthewall wrote: »

You people think about the meaning of doors far too much...

But whatever, the message of no removed any implied invitation.

Just because you can not understand it doesn't mean that it's not affecting someone else, it's not true or that they need to get a grip on reality.

Actually in law it doesn't. You have to negate any route to that door, if it is a front door and not a flat with a block door giving access.

Take it from one who knows.

The implied invite is only removed when the caller has been given the advice they are trespassing, and only then, when they come back.

:cool:

Flyonthewall

powerful_Rogue wrote: »

Why assume its the other way where the OP did nothing wrong and the big bad man was standing on the door step shouting, threatening the OP and being rude??

Again, theres two sides to every story. Without the other side, I take some of what the OP said with a pinch of salt. The OP must have said something to make the male react the way he apparently did.

Why must they? Guy could have a short temper, be having a bad day or just be a complete idiot for all we know. There's no reason to think the OP had to have done anything.

I'm going by the OP because they are the one here asking for advice, not the seller/husband, and there's nothing to suggest their version isn't what happened.

There's no point in making assumptions or wondering what if it wasn't that way. If it wasn't how the OP said the advice given is useless and it was pointless of them to start the thread but no harm done. If it was the way they said then the advice could actually help them.

You gain nothing by assuming things or twisting things around, you're just wasting your time and the OP, but if you just read what they've put and give a genuine reply of advice then you could be really helping someone.

powerful_Rogue

Flyonthewall wrote: »

Why must they? Guy could have a short temper, be having a bad day or just be a complete idiot for all we know. There's no reason to think the OP had to have done anything.

I'm going by the OP because they are the one here asking for advice, not the seller/husband, and there's nothing to suggest their version isn't what happened.

There's no point in making assumptions or wondering what if it wasn't that way. If it wasn't how the OP said the advice given is useless and it was pointless of them to start the thread but no harm done. If it was the way they said then the advice could actually help them.

You gain nothing by assuming things or twisting things around, you're just wasting your time and the OP, but if you just read what they've put and give a genuine reply of advice then you could be really helping someone.

Just as the OP could have a short temper, been having a bad day or be a complete idiot.

I hear stories all the time, some plausible, some not. I personally do not believe the OP's story is plausible. Apparently all she did was point to a no cold callers sign and the male went off on when. Nope, sorry - dont buy it. Theres more to the story which the OP for whatever reason hasn't divulged.

Flyonthewall

chancesare wrote: »

Actually in law it doesn't. You have to negate any route to that door, if it is a front door and not a flat with a block door giving access.

Take it from one who knows.

The implied invite is only removed when the caller has been given the advice they are trespassing, and only then, when they come back.

:cool:

Saying no implies they're not invited and most people would use common sense and not call around when it's clear they're not wanted. It shouldn't have to go to what the law says.

Do you know because you often call uninvited to places? It's sounding that way...