Seller appears on doorstep...

nomi76

Flyonthewall wrote: »

Yes, that's why he got angry because OP stated they weren't expecting them as they hadn't agreed to it.

He may not have known previously, we don't know.

So all he has to do is say sorry I didn't realise at which point they probably would have completed the transaction and been done with it. You don't start carrying on about it getting angry.

Flyonthewall

nomi76 wrote: »

So all he has to do is say sorry I didn't realise at which point they probably would have completed the transaction and been done with it. You don't start carrying on about it getting angry.

Exactly. At the very least he could have handed the item over anyway, but at least it seems they have posted it now.

skitler

Flyonthewall wrote: »

Yes, that's why he got angry because OP stated they weren't expecting them as they hadn't agreed to it.

He may not have known previously, we don't know.

yes! no! don't know!


which is it?

RHemmings wrote: »

Clearly you think it's the OP's that unreasonable. It would help if you could come up with a strong argument as to why it's the OP that is to blame. As it seems that those on this thread who blame the OP seem to do so by ignoring the really important characteristics of the delivery, or by trying to make that conclusion contingent on insufficiently relevant factors.

but its not clear that the delivery person got the message not to deliver,


the door was knocked on


the door was opened


the buyer gets uppity with door knocker,


why would sellers rep go to the trouble to deliver and then just for no reason start abusing op, he can knock on any door in any street and do that if that was his game.
the op is with holding info and not being entirely truthfull, part of this story is missing from op. as we know there are 2 side to every tale, and op has be caught wanting.


what part of that don't you understand, it was posted earlier today giving you my reason.


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wiogs

If the seller did not inform the delivery person that the mode of delivery was unacceptable then that is an issue between them seller and delivery person.


What makes you think the buyer got "uppity" with the delivery person?

skitler

wiogs wrote: »

If the seller did not inform the delivery person that the mode of delivery was unacceptable then that is an issue between them seller and delivery person.


What makes you think the buyer got "uppity" with the delivery person?

I can ask you why did the knocker just for no reason go out of his way to upset the op?, he was providing the service in good faith, it seems far more plausible that the op was uppity towards the knocker as op was off guard.

Flyonthewall

skitler wrote: »

I can ask you why did the knocker just for no reason go out of his way to upset the op?, he was providing the service in good faith, it seems far more plausible that the op was uppity towards the knocker as op was off guard.

I doubt he went out his way to upset the buyer. Maybe he just has a short temper or was having a bad day.

Arlandria606 wrote: »

I wasn't rude or argumentative with him - I simply said, oh, I actually asked for that to be posted. I would have gone to take the item at that point, had it been visible, but it wasn't.

Nothing wrong with what OP said. It was surprise that he was there as they'd asked for it to be posted, which they told him. It was a simple fact.

Most people would have probably said something like oh, sorry. well hey I'm here now so here it is. Or sorry to bother you then, I won't keep you, here's the item.

Rhymsta

Looks like I've had a few lucky escapes as I have also had the audacity to hand deliver on a few occasions when I've seen that the address is somewhere I would be going close to anyway.
The last time I did it the feedback said. 'Fantastic service and hand delivery too A++++'"
Just goes to show how different people are.
But, after reading this thread my hand delivery days are over...

It seems to me that it's far too risky by far:

The buyer could react badly and leave a neg.
The buyer could claim INR.
The buyer could accept the item then leave a low star rating for delivery cost.

Is it worth it to save a few quid?

Flyonthewall

What do you want? Seriously, shall we get the OP, seller, the guy and an ebay representative and place them in a type of Jeremy Kyle show situation? You seem to want life stories so we'll start with earliest memories and build up to this moment.

Course if your listening skills are as bad as your reading skills they'll just end up repeating everything and you'll still have questions and pointless comments on what you feel like you need to know.

The OP has given all the details we need to know, they told us their side. All these posts on here are one sided, it's not possible for it to be any other way. If you're still confused and missing details then reread the thread and you'll have your answers. Otherwise just give up because I can't be bothered with quoting any more and you keep asking the same questions and making the same points that you've already had answers to. If you don't know the asnwers by now you never will.

OP responded many times and answered the questions/comments the first time you made them. Half the posts you clearly ignored as I've since quoted them to you at least once.

Arlandria606

skitler wrote: »

but we only have ops sparce side of the tail, leaving out details.
op is hardly going to come on here and say she was anything but polite, perhaps op had the short fuse.


something snapped like a overstreached elastic,


knocker may read this and give a differing account as op has still yet failed to respond

Sorry I didn't respond sooner. I have to do things like cook dinner, eat dinner, sleep, shower, spend time with my family, run errands. It gets in the way of my "explaining to rude and obnoxious people on the Internet my life story so they can judge whether my reasons for not being okay with something are worthy or not even though that's not actually the point of this thread" time.

Exactly what information is it that you think is still outstanding and relevant? I suspect that you want to know why I didn't want the seller's husband to deliver by hand, even though I've said before that it's private and not something I'm prepared to share, and I and others have pointed out that it's not actually relevant.

I further strongly suspect that you are incapable of accepting any reason given and, if I were to divulge my reasons, you would simply attack me, make more explicit jokes at my expense, and judge my reasons as "not good enough", whatever they happen to be.

Given that, why on earth would I share something private and open myself up to further ridicule and insult? It's bad enough being called "weird" and "paranoid" by people who can't stop and consider that maybe there is a good reason for my feelings on the matter, regardless of whether they know what it is or not.

I can think of any number of hypothetical reasons why accepting a delivery from a stranger might be at best inconvenient or at worse traumatic for someone. Maybe they're disabled and have an agreement with the Royal Mail that all their post comes on a particular day when they have help around. Maybe they have severe agoraphobia. Maybe they're running a business from home and expecting to have clients around. Maybe they've recently experienced some kind of trauma or attack and are very wary of strangers. None of these are my reasons, but I can still think of them and appreciate that people in these situations might not want a stranger showing up on their doorstep when they were expecting an alternative and had already communicated this.

Can you really not understand that other people are experiencing life differently from you, and therefore have different views on what is and isn't okay for them to experience?

powerful_Rogue

Flyonthewall wrote: »

They didn't make an issue out of it, they said one little thing in surprise at him being there. The only drama has been on this forum, unless you count the guy getting angry and yelling but there was no need for that.

The OP just wanted a bit of advice because the situation didn't turn out how they expected and they weren't sure how to deal with that.

Instead they've a thread of rude replies, people trying to get more information out of them, many people assuming things, many people not understanding and no one giving advice.

Was you hiding in the OP's front room peering out of the window? Maybe thats the reason she didnt want any visitors!

The reason I say that, is because you seem to claim you know everything about this situation!