Seller appears on doorstep...

skitler

Flyonthewall wrote: »

First post. Does that not confirm that it was the sellers husband? It seems unlikely the seller would ask that then send some random guy, although I suppose you never know. Still it's pretty safe to assume it was the husband.



Opening a door and not knowing who is there doesn't mean you accepting them, it means you want to know who they are and why they're at your door. Opening it is the way to find out. Even if you want to class it as accepting them that doesn't mean they have to be happy about it.





They stated they weren't expecting them, caller got angry and left. OP did nothing to cause that except express surprise that the caller was there.



No, but there were threats made by caller. Not violent ones, but still threats and therefore not good customer service.



Nothing to say they accept all callers. Either way they have a right to say no to whoever they wish.



Far as I and some others are concerned, we have the facts we need. Only you who still seems to want more information.

caller now confirmed as sellers husband, now where getting somewhere.


callers id could have been established without opening the door, once the door is opened the caller is received, no matter what happens next. op never said they was unhappy with caller


op may have been surprised that caller was there, but op knew someone was there or door would have remained closed


threats!! really?


op started a conversation with caller thus not refusing caller


the info still required is ;


why this particular caller was rebuffed as Quizzical Squirrel says
op over reacted even though op said no op could have still taken the parcel


why oh why oh why,


ops lack of posting is speaking volumes
op tried to scam the seller and its back fired, no other explanation. simples

Flyonthewall

Dovah_diva wrote: »

Explain that one to me, please. I can understand you are annoyed that the delivered when you said not to, but how do you jump from that to the frankly insulting 'these people have my address, and are clearly prepared to misuse that information'?

There were some comments earlier about it. Basically the seller gave the details to the husband and he came around after the OP said no to being hand delivered and the husband got angry. If I remember right the OP felt the husband shouldn't have been given their information as he wasn't involved in the contract. But I'll leave it up to the OP whether they wish to comment on that further.

techspec

P.s i do think the seller, after bothering to ask, should have accepted the response.

But before Ebay - we put stuff in the paper. The buyer would then visit the house of a random stranger and go in their house to look and buy.

You were in your own house, and had the benefit of Ebay's feedback system to judge the seller. Does the feedback suggest the seller was bad in any way, or was their good feedback the reason you bought?

The worlds gone mad when you have to post an item to a neighbour - because they don't want the likes of you on their land.

Flyonthewall

skitler wrote: »

caller now confirmed as sellers husband, now where getting somewhere.

You say that like it wasn't all there from the start...but yes, it's confirmed, moving on.

callers id could have been established without opening the door, once the door is opened the caller is received, no matter what happens next. op never said they was unhappy with caller

How? By yelling through a door or creepily spying through the letter box? Far easier to open a door and see. This thread suggests they weren't entirely happy because they weren't expecting them as they'd said no to him calling round.

op may have been surprised that caller was there, but op knew someone was there or door would have remained closed

Well yeah...doesn't stop someone being surprised and expressing that surprise.

threats!! really?

Yes. He threatened to report the buyer and summat else that I can't remember now. Threats don't have to be violent or threaten violence to be threats. A threat is an action you claim you will carry out - in this case, reporting the buyer.

op started a conversation with caller thus not refusing caller

They made a comment, yes. It was still no excuse for his reaction and it still doesn't mean he should have been there.

the info still required is ;


why this particular caller was rebuffed as Quizzical Squirrel says
op over reacted even though op said no op could have still taken the parcel


why oh why oh why,


ops lack of posting is speaking volumes
op tried to scam the seller and its back fired, no other explanation. simples

They would have taken the parcel. This has already been stated by the OP. The guy didn't give it, he just walked off and OP never saw any sign of it.

Lack of posting? They've posted numerous times. Not everyone stays on here for hours. Maybe OP has a life.

OP tried to scam the seller? :rotfl: If they wanted to scam them they would have asked for the parcel, taken it and claimed item not received. They wouldn't have asked beforehand for it to be posted, they wouldn't have let the seller walk away, they wouldn't be currently waiting for the item in the post and hoping it comes if they were trying to scam.

Flyonthewall

skitler wrote: »

why this particular caller was rebuffed as Quizzical Squirrel says
op over reacted even though op said no op could have still taken the parcel


why oh why oh why,


ops lack of posting is speaking volumes
op tried to scam the seller and its back fired, no other explanation. simples

Arlandria606 wrote: »

Actually I didn't get the chance to. He wasn't visibly holding it when I answered the door and as soon as he got angry he started moving back up the drive and left without offering it. It was small and soft so could have been in a pocket, but I didn't actually see the package at any time.

There's the post on the parcel and why they never got it. The guy never even attempted to give it to them.

Arlandria606 wrote: »

It has since been marked as dispatched so hopefully it's in the post to me now.

And there's the proof about hoping it's in the post to go with what I mentioned in the previous post.

pixtotts

I buy and sell regularly on ebay.
As a buyer had the same question been put to me I'd have definitely said no!
And as a seller I have posted to people living in the same area as me, and would never have asked to deliver it, I find the fact the seller asked strange, I'm not sure I've seen for definite but I'm assuming the buyer paid for postage, so the seller would not have been left out of pocket anyway... surely they could have called at the post office rather than the buyers house.
If I were the buyer I would be going through ebay and requesting my postage be refunded as the seller has not done what the op has paid for. When you sell on ebay you put postage options, you give options on how it will be delivered, it is wrong for the seller to deliver the item in anyway other than what the buyer has selected. If the seller does not want to deliver it in that way they should not have listed it as an option.
I'd do the same and be equally annoyed if something came delivered by courier had I paid for royal mail, 2nd class when I'd paid for 1st, etc.

Hope you get a conclusion you are happy with op
x

Flyonthewall

pixtotts wrote: »

I buy and sell regularly on ebay.
As a buyer had the same question been put to me I'd have definitely said no!
And as a seller I have posted to people living in the same area as me, and would never have asked to deliver it, I find the fact the seller asked strange, I'm not sure I've seen for definite but I'm assuming the buyer paid for postage, so the seller would not have been left out of pocket anyway... surely they could have called at the post office rather than the buyers house.
If I were the buyer I would be going through ebay and requesting my postage be refunded as the seller has not done what the op has paid for. When you sell on ebay you put postage options, you give options on how it will be delivered, it is wrong for the seller to deliver the item in anyway other than what the buyer has selected. If the seller does not want to deliver it in that way they should not have listed it as an option.
I'd do the same and be equally annoyed if something came delivered by courier had I paid for royal mail, 2nd class when I'd paid for 1st, etc.

Hope you get a conclusion you are happy with op
x

They did pay postage and after all this the item has now been marked as dispatched as the guy who came around never gave the item to the buyer.

skitler

yes confirmation on caller agreed :rotfl:i did have a giggle there


yes, but if op didn't want the caller do nothing, op was supposed to be out anyway!!


the surprised op obviously did it in a manner to cause offence to a stranger, not in a welcoming manor. no matter what reason caller was there.


a threat implys malicious intent, caller just stated a fact, that he would report op.


his reaction was to leave, caller my not have had the full info, and when made aware made his retreat.


if op took parcel and then claimed no delivery, im sure caller would call again to asertain why;). so op is with holding why this particular call was not to her liking. only op knows this but its being with held

an9i77

Arlandria606 wrote: »

Right. Because a package without any kind of postage on it obviously... teleported itself into my house via the new Royal Mail Teleportation Service? And considering that I was in fact in when he arrived, I'd have heard it drop.

Again, you're making the mistake of thinking that the seller delivered the item. They didn't. The seller was female; her husband delivered it.

Here's the problem. If a courier gets abusive on my doorstep, I can get in touch with the company and they can follow up. If a total stranger - whose name I don't know, because they're not the seller - gets abusive, there's nothing I can do. It's too minor for the police to be involved, and there's no responsible body here.

It's got nothing to do with "good enough", and everything to do with my wishes being respected. Who are you, the seller, her husband, or anyone else to tell me what I should and shouldn't have to agree to? She asked. I said no. That should be the end of it.

I sure am glad you are not one of my buyers - you sound like a nightmare!

skitler

Flyonthewall wrote: »

There's the post on the parcel and why they never got it. The guy never even attempted to give it to them.


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Actually I didn't get the chance to. He wasn't visibly holding it when I answered the door and as soon as he got angry he started moving back up the drive and left without offering it. It was small and soft so could have been in a pocket, but I didn't actually see the package at any time.



the parcel may still have been in the callers vehicle,