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E-on - You are a bunch of Liars and I'm reporting you to Ofgem

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  • Cardew
    Cardew Posts: 29,060 Forumite
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    sniggings wrote: »
    if they can't do that how are they going to get any meaningful help from a country wide average, .


    Let us say E-on has 2 million customers, and the average bill is £1,000pa.


    They have announced an average rise of 3.7%. So the average customer will pay £37pa more.


    1. Customer A's annual bill was £3,132.78pa and because of his mix of gas/electricity/payment method his rise will only be 2.968% so he will pay an extra £92.98 a year.


    2. Customer B's annual bill was £385.87 and because of his mix of gas/electricity/payment method his rise will be 4.643% so he will pay an extra £17.92 a year.


    There will be 1,999,998 other customers with different annual expenditure and with a different percentage increase in their charges(I am sure Malc will list them if you wish).


    So how should E-on present to the public their price increase?
  • sniggings
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    Cardew wrote: »
    Let us say E-on has 2 million customers, and the average bill is £1,000pa.


    They have announced an average rise of 3.7%. So the average customer will pay £37pa more.


    1. Customer A's annual bill was £3,132.78pa and because of his mix of gas/electricity/payment method his rise will only be 2.968% so he will pay an extra £92.98 a year.


    2. Customer B's annual bill was £385.87 and because of his mix of gas/electricity/payment method his rise will be 4.643% so he will pay an extra £17.92 a year.


    There will be 1,999,998 other customers with different annual expenditure and with a different percentage increase in their charges(I am sure Malc will list them if you wish).


    So how should E-on present to the public their price increase?

    you are missing the point, what has it got to do with e-on what my yearly expenditure on fuel? I want to know what price they are going to charge me, that's it, their methods and the government is to confuse the public.
  • sniggings wrote: »
    Funny how their method makes the increase already look smaller than it is, my method is at least honest.


    How can the increase be less than it is?
  • sniggings
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    How can the increase be less than it is?

    because it's an average for all the uses, some will be higher than the state increase, some will be lower than the stated increase, if you are not exactly the average user then it's guess when what your increase will be.
  • C_Mababejive
    C_Mababejive Posts: 11,668 Forumite
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    What makes you think OFGEM give a damn? They all have first class seats on the gravy train as well..
    Feudal Britain needs land reform. 70% of the land is "owned" by 1 % of the population and at least 50% is unregistered (inherited by landed gentry). Thats why your slave box costs so much..
  • sniggings wrote: »
    because it's an average for all the uses, some will be higher than the state increase, some will be lower than the stated increase, if you are not exactly the average user then it's guess when what your increase will be.

    So, you don't like eons average price increase because it's an average. I get that.

    But don't claim that it's actually more than that. That's mathematically impossible.

    Making the same mistake as our esteemed Minister for Education:

    http://www.leftfootforward.org/2013/10/michael-gove-doesnt-understand-averages/
  • sniggings
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    So, you don't like eons average price increase because it's an average. I get that.

    But don't claim that it's actually more than that. That's mathematically impossible.

    Making the same mistake as our esteemed Minister for Education:

    http://www.leftfootforward.org/2013/10/michael-gove-doesnt-understand-averages/


    thanks for the link but it's quite long, took a look but gave up looking for the mistake you talk of.
  • Cardew
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    sniggings wrote: »
    you are missing the point, what has it got to do with e-on what my yearly expenditure on fuel? I want to know what price they are going to charge me, that's it, their methods and the government is to confuse the public.


    I will try once more.


    I asked a question:


    'So how should E-on present to the public their price increase?'

    You obviously don't like the way the price increase has been announced.


    You(from the quote above) obviously don't think your yearly expenditure is anything to do with E-ON: So


    How do you think E-ON should present the price rise to their 2 million customers?
  • sniggings
    sniggings Posts: 5,281 Forumite
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    Cardew wrote: »
    I will try once more.


    I asked a question:


    'So how should E-on present to the public their price increase?'

    You obviously don't like the way the price increase has been announced.


    You(from the quote above) obviously don't think your yearly expenditure is anything to do with E-ON: So


    How do you think E-ON should present the price rise to their 2 million customers?

    I have answered but I will be a little clearer...they should announce it the same way they "announce" their tariffs to their 2 million customers already.

    Something like "We have increased our unit rates and SC please check our your bill/web site for the new charges" .

    You are falling into the trap of believing that the announce we do get is needed or useful, by all means if the mdia want to then average out the increase and announce such and such has just raised their prices by 3% on average, then I'm happy with that, but it's not for the energy companies to tell me that on average my bill will be 3% more if that is not the case, making it a pointless piece of information and only serving to confuse energy prices more, instead of making things clearer.
  • OP where are you ?? :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
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