Advice urgently needed - what would you do?

slightlyconfused1

poet123 wrote: »

I deal with 16+ so, yes, technically adults, but perhaps it is not so clear cut.

So, it is not bullying to constantly make remarks to the class at large about a specific student which are supposed to be funny, but in reality are not? Not bullying to target an individual and place your bag in their way and laugh, and encourage others to do likewise when they fall over it, to isolate students and call them names;ginger, !!!!!, stupid, etc, but in a jokey way. Ok, we disagree. Check out the definition of bullying and ask yourself if your child was on the receiving end of the above on a daily basis would your opinion change?

I placed the blame on the parents who would not accept their child behaved in that way, because, like you, they think it is it is childish, even normal. And it is, till it crosses the line, and when challenged about it still they persist but slyly. If you were in the classroom you would know the line had been crossed. I see it, I know when the line has been crossed. I deal with it.

Which school? I made it clear that I was not referring to the op, so I am unclear what you mean here. I think you are conflating two issues.

I thought I had made it abundantly clear that both the school and the teachers in any school have a role to play. Ultimately, the responsibility is theirs.

I really am not sure what you are taking issue with here.

Poet this is the first time you have said anything happened to an entire class. You paint a completely different picture of a sly individual trying to break up friendship groups

Surely if you saw this happening ( it appears to have gone on a while) then action should have been taken.

I think you have actually illustrated my point very well.

I am unsure why parents are involved as at the universities or fe colleges I have dealt with the parents have no role (except to pay)


However I don't want this to turn into a debate when I do not have all the facts so I will now leave this thread.

animalhouse

It looks like DS has a good chance of getting into the school we want- the forms have gone in and the county council have a 10 day decision time so fingers crossed. His old school have an on-line homework/lesson planner so I've asked that they set him work through that so he can keep up as far as possible.

DS is horrified that I'm making him do schoolwork....telling Dad , Mum made me do four and a half hours of learning! I didn't have a clue, so we did an hour of art, an hour of history (look up and read about Nelson Mandela, then write a short essay saying why he was important to his country and the world in general - I think I was a bit ambitious there, but he enjoyed it and we both know a lot more about apartheid now). Then - well you get the picture. I've found some websites with resources for home schooling so am taking direction from them to structure our coming days a bit better.

With regard to some of the conversations on this thread, I think that we're all singing from the same song sheet and I value all the points of view.

animalhouse

TBH, I think this thread has run its course and could be closed now.
Thank you all again so much for your advice and support.
xx

poet123

slightlyconfused1 wrote: »

Poet this is the first time you have said anything happened to an entire class. You paint a completely different picture of a sly individual trying to break up friendship groups

Surely if you saw this happening ( it appears to have gone on a while) then action should have been taken.

I think you have actually illustrated my point very well.

I am unsure why parents are involved as at the universities or fe colleges I have dealt with the parents have no role (except to pay)


However I don't want this to turn into a debate when I do not have all the facts so I will now leave this thread.

You have completely misunderstood what I was trying to say.

In some instances I was referring to schools (in a general context as I am also a governor) and in others specifics of the college where I lecture. I mainly deal with 16 year olds straight from school and parental involvement is to 18 unless they explicitly state otherwise. At 16 they do not magically become adult or change behaviours so often we have the same issues that schools have.

The specific incidences I mentioned in a class I am involved with are being dealt with on a daily basis and monitored, but with a large class often things do go unnoticed.

I am not sure which of your points you believe I have illustrated, but I think your last couple of sentences might be the most pertinent.

As the Op says most of us do appear to be singing from the same hymn sheet, so I am still at a loss as to why you feel differently.