Parking fine while picking up children

shaun_from_Africa

The OP won't be able to answer your questions due to them being PPR. (Posting privileges revoked).
This may be a temporary thing, or the mods may have made it permanent.

Richard53

Ahem.

Post 167:

WTFH wrote: »

Anyway, back on topic, I got a note on my car the other day saying "Parking Fine".
I thought "thank you very much". I mean, I know I'm better than most drivers, but it's nice to be recognised when you park your car well.

Post 117:

Richard53 wrote: »

The title of this thread makes me laugh. Like that old joke:

"I was complimented for my parking today. When I got back to my car, there was a note on the windscreen that said 'parking fine'."

I'll get me coat ...

Do try to keep up

Coupon-mad

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

You have advised them that they have grounds to appeal.

Don't you think the council get loads of appeals from parents who think that parking regulations don't apply to them because they are taking their children to school?

The OP does have grounds for appeal and those who know the regs have pointed it out. Councils get lots of appeals - but IMHO not enough. Most can be won at adjudication but people don't realise and fall for the discount bribe.

Parking regs on a single or double yellow are what is being discussed. Not school zig zags. A person can legally park on a yellow line to take a child into premises. Not just disabled children.

But when did the facts ever get in the way of one of your 'discussions' Jamie Carter?! WTFH is just as bad, how about considering the facts about yellow lines then, both of you, rather than assuming you can't stop there at all?!


THE EXEMPTION (SUMMARISED):
- the 'assisted alighting exemption' is for the time taken to escort a disabled, elderly or young passenger safely to premises nearby - so 4 mins to walk him to the classroom, one minute of handing him over and 4 mins to walk back to the car doesn't sound excessive if the school entrance is a longish driveway with the classroom towards the back. What is your problem with that perfectly legal scenario?

- no-one is saying he CEO was wrong to issue the ticket. If he/she saw no sign of loading/unloading or assisting a passenger for those 9 minutes, you can see why the ticket was issued. But a correctly-issued ticket doesn't necessarily = a payable ticket. There are almost always grounds for appeal!

- a lot of the angry stuff here about 'parking near school entrances' is talking about dangerous parking, or parking on zigzags which is a complete no-no during the hours of operation. But the OP was merely parked perfectly legally on a single yellow so I had no clue why he got such rubbish 'advice' (a flaming) at first, except that he posted on the wrong form board.

- it is utter codswallop to say that parking on a single yellow could be 'dangerous'! Why do you think it's painted as a single yellow, where people are allowed to park for various exempt reasons? Even a double yellow can be parked on for the purposes of assisted alighting/boarding (and loading/unloading and for three hours by a disabled person with a Blue Badge) but those are different exemptions. There are loads of reasons a car can be parked on a yellow line and if a Council meant it to be 'no stopping' they would paint double yellows with a 'no loading rule' as well in the form of signs and yellow kerb blips.

None of which were the case in the OP. It was a perfectly legit place to stop and take a child into nearby premises and would be won on appeal at adjudication.

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WTFH

Richard53 wrote: »

Ahem.

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Post 117:



Do try to keep up

Are you calling me an "old joke"?

...anyway, the thread is going round in circles, so I expect that one to be repeated in about another 50 posts.

WTFH

Coupon mad, the reason the OP said they parked there was because it was COLD. Not because their child needed assistance.
If you're saying that even though the real reason was the temperature, the OP should be allowed to claim some other reason (i.e. lie) to get away with parking where they shouldn't.

Frankly, I am ashamed that instead of encouraging people to obey the law and the rules of the road, there are some on here who are more interested in working out how to get away with avoiding punishment when you deliberately and knowingly refuse to follow the rules.

...unless you are a mummy in a 4x4 who must drive their child 500 yards to school, or likes to park in shop car parks without buying anything there - in which case I can understand why you say that - you're not interested in anyone else or how your attitude causes problems for others, you're the reason why there are so many fines/penalties/charges being issued - no consideration for others - there welfare or their business.

(I expect this post will get reported and I'll get a telling off, but if that's the case then it means telling the truth is not welcome on here, but advising people to misrepresent the truth is)

uknick

If this 'assisted alighting exemption' is correct, and I have no reason to doubt what has been posted, does this mean single yellow lines are irrelevant by a primary or nursery school?

I assume they are there to stop cars parking, therefore blocking the moving traffic's view of the road and children running out between parked cars etc.. If you can legally park for up to 10 minutes, as implied by this thread, would that not mean at start and finish times the lines can be parked on legally.

Assuming, and I know this may be a big assumption, most traffic want to park there at school start and finish time to drop off/pick up children what is the point of the lines?

Other than to catch drivers out who are unaware of parking rules and pay the incorrect tickets.

Iceweasel

I have reviewed my responses to this thread and have slowly and carefully read the first 2 pages.

The wording of the OP's opening post made it very clear for me that the sole reason for parking on the yellow line was because it was cold.

I doubt that it was actually "freezing".

I doubt that the alternative was that the 4 year old would really have to walk "miles".

There was also a reference to "packs of parking people nailing people on the school run".

That sounds to me like the school has a problem with inconsiderate/illegal parking.

It's no surprise then that the OP got little or no sympathy, from most of us.

The lack of any mention of disability or special needs would lead most folks to assume (perhaps wrongly) that the sole reason for the parking on the yellow was the cold.

If I have offended anyone with a legitimate reason for parking on a yellow line near a school entrance then I regret that.

But I think we'll never know the whole story here.

iammumtoone

uknick wrote: »

If this 'assisted alighting exemption' is correct, and I have no reason to doubt what has been posted, does this mean single yellow lines are irrelevant by a primary or nursery school?

I assume they are there to stop cars parking, therefore blocking the moving traffic's view of the road and children running out between parked cars etc.. If you can legally park for up to 10 minutes, as implied by this thread, would that not mean at start and finish times the lines can be parked on legally.

Assuming, and I know this may be a big assumption, most traffic want to park there at school start and finish time to drop off/pick up children what is the point of the lines?

Other than to catch drivers out who are unaware of parking rules and pay the incorrect tickets.

That is a very valid point the lines must be only there hoping that parents do not know what they mean and will avoid parking on them.

To be fair to Coupon-mad and Tilt, they only pointed out what the laws states, they did not make the law.

What really needs to happen is the law changed so some kind of line/restriction can be put in place around schools that means no parking at school times, if a child does genuinely need to park near then as pointed out above the school should make arrangements for this (maybe they could be given the authority to issue parking passes to those children/parents who need it). Before this thread I thought I would be describing a single yellow line but apparently not

anotherbaldrick

Following from that which WTFH said, In a society which only had fair and honourable citizens who conducted their life with respect and consideration to others, their would be no necessity to have rules and regulations at all. Instead we are hidebound by them.

albionrovers

anotherbaldrick wrote: »

Following from that which WTFH said, In a society which only had fair and honourable citizens who conducted their life with respect and consideration to others, their would be no necessity to have rules and regulations at all. Instead we are hidebound by them.

Ah, the type who don't give you right of way when you clearly have it and then shout at you because you're in the wrong?

Broken Britain's finest. I hate 'em.