Have i been scammed?? Raspberry Ketone Fresh

intend

During the last few weeks I have tried to cancel the so called subscription by sending letters to 4 different addresses, emails to numerous email addresses, and phoned many different numbers. I've had no replies from the letters or the emails. Using the phone, I've been put on hold for long stretches and then cut off, I've been spoken to very rudely, called a liar and told to stop wasting their time and then cut off. Finally, yesterday I spoke to someone who at long last did have my details, she was very polite and says she has cancelled my subscription, she has given me cancellation numbers and assured me that I will not receive any more products and the cancellation is valid. The company won't return any money because it is more than the 14 days since the trial period. For piece of mind, I rang again today to ask a different person to cancel and was told it has already been cancelled and they quoted the cancellation numbers and no I can't have my money back. I will contact my bank again tomorrow to let them have the information. My bank despite me quoting the FCA have not stopped the company from accessing my account but are refunding the money. I feel as if a big weight has been lifted off me but have lost my faith in myself, my bank and still don't trust the company to honour the cancellation, only time will tell. I started trying to contact the company prior to the 14 days but have only just managed to speak with them. I have found out that there are 3 different types of Raspberry ketone, all with different companies, mine are the ketone blast from
raspberry-ketoneblast.com this is where I found the correct telephone number.
It has been a dreadful nightmare, not sleeping, not eating and yes I have lost weight but look and feel dreadful. I do hope you are all able to get your money back. I'll keep in touch and help if I can. Good luck and thank you for all your help and support.

1tyson1

hi i have contacted company via number on order bit of a joke they try to give crap lie allsorts ,however after phoning again i managed to get through and was given rma and cancellation number for both products .
what i would like to know is that do i return the free trial bottles or am i due a new batch of pills as they have taken payment out for £89 and £95 and should i waittill these arrive and send the lot back or send the original free trial bottles which have been opened and a couple of pills been used
please advise also to others keep pestering and you will be given a rma and cancellation number via email as i have eceived eventually with a returns address

intend

Hi, I think you will need to send the pills back registered post with rma number but not certain. They have refused to give me a return number, just a cancellation number. If you read through the other posts, there are some people who have sent them back, received their money back and cancelled.

Alan_Rab

I started searching post codes and companies from details on the bottles and web sites .

I got to about 70 companies in the UK alone.

Most with one director , most American.

London/ Milton Keynes/ Kidlington/ Cardiff/ Glasgow/ Newcastle.
Then you go to America, New Zeland/ South Africa/ Australia/ Canada !!!

Report it to Action Fraud on line.

Push your Bank to plug the silly pending loophole where you cant stop money going if you notice a conn ( so Barclays tell me ) . I complained to the FCA about it.

Tell trading Standards.

I got hit for £160-00 multiply that by ten purchases a day over one year for each of the 70 'companies' I found = £40,000,000-00 per year !!!!!!!!! Keep pushing and complaing. PS get names ! The same dope answered two different 0800 numbers by name and admitted he was the same guy . Plus two companies products delivered together in one envelope ???

kellys1980

The companies I know of operating ths scam are

Nutrition First Ltd
Superior Nutrional Ltd
Evident Health Ltd
Healthy Essentials Ltd
First To Market Ltd

Please share all others so people are aware

The directors are
Oded Karati
Gabriele Yotvak Kariti
Igael Karati

They are involved in serious organised crime in money laundering and drugs smuggling operations and similar cams in America and have been arrested in Staton Island in USA in 2009 as can be seen on this link to a newspaper

Please see this link to the arrest for $3 Million dollars of drugs and $500, 000 of laundred money at Staton Island by USA Police

Search in google

"Staten Island couple played key role in multimillion-dollar marijuana ring, authorities say"

to see the newspaper article on their arrest!!! Incidently the third criminal mentioned in the article met an unexpected sudden death while on bail and let you draw you own conclusions

How can a company assoicated with the USA !!!!! set up UK Limited Companies?? How can people with a history of money laundering and drug distribution have obtained a credit card merchant account in the firts place ?

How can banks defend their "rights" of terms and conditions when they have a criminal background and have had complaints against them upheld by the Advertising Standards Authority a long list of prevous scams ? I dont doubt that they are proberbly using the distribution network to import drugs and launder the money, and by dividing all the sales into so many companies keeping each company under the VAT threshold to avoid VAT

The only way to stamp them out is to demand charge backs again and again until no company will give them a Merchant Account to take payments and its obviously negligent of the banks who suposedley have anti fraud teams to not have spotted their money laundering and drug smugling past of the people they are sending money to

wealdroam

kellys1980 wrote: »

The companies I know of operating ths scam are

Nutrition First Ltd
Superior Nutrional Ltd
Evident Health Ltd
Healthy Essentials Ltd
First To Market Ltd

Please share all others so people are aware

The directors are
Oded Karati
Gabriele Yotvak Kariti
Igael Karati

They are involved in serious organised crime in money laundering and drugs smuggling operations and similar cams in America and have been arrested in Staton Island in USA in 2009 as can be seen on this link to a newspaper

Please see this link to the arrest for $3 Million dollars of drugs and $500, 000 of laundred money at Staton Island by USA Police

Search in google

"Staten Island couple played key role in multimillion-dollar marijuana ring, authorities say"

to see the newspaper article on their arrest!!! Incidently the third criminal mentioned in the article met an unexpected sudden death while on bail and let you draw you own conclusions

How can a company assoicated with the USA !!!!! set up UK Limited Companies?? How can people with a history of money laundering and drug distribution have obtained a credit card merchant account in the firts place ?

How can banks defend their "rights" of terms and conditions when they have a criminal background and have had complaints against them upheld by the Advertising Standards Authority a long list of prevous scams ? I dont doubt that they are proberbly using the distribution network to import drugs and launder the money, and by dividing all the sales into so many companies keeping each company under the VAT threshold to avoid VAT

The only way to stamp them out is to demand charge backs again and again until no company will give them a Merchant Account to take payments and its obviously negligent of the banks who suposedley have anti fraud teams to not have spotted their money laundering and drug smugling past of the people they are sending money to

Whilst that is all very noble stuff, you seem to have overlooked the fact that it is the bank's customer who, by tendering their debit or credit card, has specifically instructed the bank to send funds to another bank account.

There would be uproar, and rightly so, if the bank were able to decide who their account holders were allowed to send money to or make purchases from.

Of course the banks can and should help their customers who get into difficulties, but once you have decided to send money, then they would be on dodgy ground if they were either to a) refuse to send the money having been instructed to do so, b) refuse to send the money because their customer has apparently changed their mind, c) claws the money back simply because their customer asks them to.

The banks, and I include credit card companies here, are in a no-win situation, and they can only act within the law.

kellys1980

Well over 300 people on this site alone have been scammed by these companies so obviously there is misleading adverts

Bearing in mind it is run by organised crime (proberbly the $3 million of drugs Oded Karati was found with in 2009 were related to ringleader Jimmy Cournoyer and his associates who distributed drugs and money laundering valued at more than $1 billion) and Ild be surprised if the director of the UK companies responsible for the raspberry ketone scam who is listed at Companies House as Oded Karati is out of jail yet in USA

So it begs the question how on earth has companies house allowed him to become a director of a UK company as i expect he is still in jail ? And how have these companies not been shut down when reading the scams the companies Kariti is running have been going on for some time? Moreover from what I have read in some cases the bank does not seem to have been helpful to the customers and so has been defending and supporting money laundering crimes

Finally the way Credit Card processing works is your credit card (the issuing bank) when a fraud is reported will refind your money . They will then charge back to the Merchant Account of the Vendor who will in turn (if the company still exists) then charge back the seller so the cost of the fraud is paid by the sellers merchant account not by the buyers bank

When a seller seeks a Merchant Account to undertake credit card sales the sellers Merchant Account is required to thoroughly check that the seller is legitimate has no criminal past and has not got a history of failed companies, complaints and previous chargebacks etc. Normally they are very careful to prevent companies run by Directors such a Odete Karati from having a Merchant account because the sellers merchant account takes the risk of getting a chargeback and the company vanishing (which it will) before they get the money back

In this case every transaction they have ever made is proberbly illegal because (it is most likely judging by the directors links to the Staten Island crime Bonanno crime family ) proberbly the money is being laundered. The raspberry ketone scam is being undertaken in USA, Canada, Austraia to name just a few places and so this is no small operation

Now the point is that 300 plus customers on this site cant all have been misled and the advertising standards authority agree too

Moreover the only way to stop the scam is for customers to demand a chargeback which costs the sellers the money plus a fee of about $100 .Obviously sooner or later the companies will disapear leaving the sellers merchant account to pick up the cost of the charge back but it is their fault that they did not properly check the seller . In the UK and Europe the sellers Merchant account banks are hugley carefull not to take on criminals and scammers such as these

Demanding chargebacks therefore has three benefits and no negative impact on your own credit card company if you can show fraud.

Firstly it immediately costs the seller money and jepordises his merchant account (as too many chargebacks and they withdraw the merchant account so the seller cant sell anything ) .

Secondly it will reduce the funds available to organised crime, money landering and drug smugling. It is a fact that the person on Companies House named as the director of the companies responsible for the raspberry ketone scam was arrested for money laundering and drugs smugling in 2009 as in the link to staton island newspaper article about him

And finally demanding chargebacks will help shut down these scam sites and so prevent the next 300 people loosing money which is what this site is all about

I simply cannot understand how the Kariti couple can look thei children in the eye when they are cheating people every day, however one hopes there is truth in the saying that what goes round comes round

wealdroam

kellys1980 wrote: »

Well over 300 people on this site alone have been scammed by these companies so obviously there is misleading adverts

Bearing in mind it is run by organised crime (proberbly the $3 million of drugs Oded Karati was found with in 2009 were related to ringleader Jimmy Cournoyer and his associates who distributed drugs and money laundering valued at more than $1 billion) and Ild be surprised if the director of the UK companies responsible for the raspberry ketone scam who is listed at Companies House as Oded Karati is out of jail yet in USA

So it begs the question how on earth has companies house allowed him to become a director of a UK company as i expect he is still in jail ? And how have these companies not been shut down when reading the scams the companies Kariti is running have been going on for some time? Moreover from what I have read in some cases the bank does not seem to have been helpful to the customers and so has been defending and supporting money laundering crimes

Finally the way Credit Card processing works is your credit card (the issuing bank) when a fraud is reported will refind your money . They will then charge back to the Merchant Account of the Vendor who will in turn (if the company still exists) then charge back the seller so the cost of the fraud is paid by the sellers merchant account not by the buyers bank

When a seller seeks a Merchant Account to undertake credit card sales the sellers Merchant Account is required to thoroughly check that the seller is legitimate has no criminal past and has not got a history of failed companies, complaints and previous chargebacks etc. Normally they are very careful to prevent companies run by Directors such a Odete Karati from having a Merchant account because the sellers merchant account takes the risk of getting a chargeback and the company vanishing (which it will) before they get the money back

In this case every transaction they have ever made is proberbly illegal because (it is most likely judging by the directors links to the Staten Island crime Bonanno crime family ) proberbly the money is being laundered. The raspberry ketone scam is being undertaken in USA, Canada, Austraia to name just a few places and so this is no small operation

Now the point is that 300 plus customers on this site cant all have been misled and the advertising standards authority agree too

Moreover the only way to stop the scam is for customers to demand a chargeback which costs the sellers the money plus a fee of about $100 .Obviously sooner or later the companies will disapear leaving the sellers merchant account to pick up the cost of the charge back but it is their fault that they did not properly check the seller . In the UK and Europe the sellers Merchant account banks are hugley carefull not to take on criminals and scammers such as these

Demanding chargebacks therefore has three benefits and no negative impact on your own credit card company if you can show fraud.

Firstly it immediately costs the seller money and jepordises his merchant account (as too many chargebacks and they withdraw the merchant account so the seller cant sell anything ) .

Secondly it will reduce the funds available to organised crime, money landering and drug smugling. It is a fact that the person on Companies House named as the director of the companies responsible for the raspberry ketone scam was arrested for money laundering and drugs smugling in 2009 as in the link to staton island newspaper article about him

And finally demanding chargebacks will help shut down these scam sites and so prevent the next 300 people loosing money which is what this site is all about

I simply cannot understand how the Kariti couple can look thei children in the eye when they are cheating people every day, however one hopes there is truth in the saying that what goes round comes round

Yes, yes, I read all that the first time.

You do seem to have made a few assumptions there... for example, you've used the word proberbly (sic) at least three times.

Are you actually agreeing or disagreeing with the points I made in my post of yesterday evening?

shakyhandbob

Yes I too fell for this, & yes I consider myself to be a careful internet user. I have anti virus,anti malware, anti every nasty you can think of installed, including one recommended by my bank (Santander) trusteer it's called. All to no avail of course as unbelievably this scam is considered LEGAL! :mad: I called my bank yesterday when my wife noticed £95 & £89 had been removed. I of course feel a complete idiot & very angry. They immediately stopped any further withdrawals. The girl I spoke to was sympathetic but could do nothing as apparently I had agreed the T & C's. Phoned a call centre in India it sounded where the operator started by asking how I was getting on with the product! Anyway managed to cancel & was given a number. She refused point blank to give a refund & had the nerve to say that people always blame them, when it was all quite clearly stated in the Terms & conditions! I'm afraid at that point my resolve to be polite & firm was lost to incoherent rage, swiftly followed by slamming the phone down. I had to phone another number to cancel the Raspberry blast which sounded suspiciously like the first one, same crackly line & background noise. He also asked how I was liking the product! Same result, no refunds given. I am trying to contact Trading Standards & Action Fraud but lines are engaged at the moment. The girl at my bank says that she alone deals with about 10 calls a day just about these companies & they seem to have been operating for a number of years. Who says crime doesn't pay. It's a joke. On another forum on this site someone has discovered who is behind the scam & it is three convicted criminals in New York, with convictions for money laundering & drug running amongst other things. Makes you wonder how they can set up a business here. AVOID at all costs.

kellys1980

shakyhandbob wrote: »

Yes I too fell for this, & yes I consider myself to be a careful internet user. I have anti virus,anti malware, anti every nasty you can think of installed, including one recommended by my bank (Santander) trusteer it's called. All to no avail of course as unbelievably this scam is considered LEGAL! :mad: I called my bank yesterday when my wife noticed £95 & £89 had been removed. I of course feel a complete idiot & very angry. They immediately stopped any further withdrawals. The girl I spoke to was sympathetic but could do nothing as apparently I had agreed the T & C's. Phoned a call centre in India it sounded where the operator started by asking how I was getting on with the product! Anyway managed to cancel & was given a number. She refused point blank to give a refund & had the nerve to say that people always blame them, when it was all quite clearly stated in the Terms & conditions! I'm afraid at that point my resolve to be polite & firm was lost to incoherent rage, swiftly followed by slamming the phone down. I had to phone another number to cancel the Raspberry blast which sounded suspiciously like the first one, same crackly line & background noise. He also asked how I was liking the product! Same result, no refunds given. I am trying to contact Trading Standards & Action Fraud but lines are engaged at the moment. The girl at my bank says that she alone deals with about 10 calls a day just about these companies & they seem to have been operating for a number of years. Who says crime doesn't pay. It's a joke. On another forum on this site someone has discovered who is behind the scam & it is three convicted criminals in New York, with convictions for money laundering & drug running amongst other things. Makes you wonder how they can set up a business here. AVOID at all costs.

I agree its disgracefull that the scam companies terms and conditions can be supported by a bank when the company is operating illegally on many levels

They hide behind a myriad of companies and the reason the first payment taken is small ammounts is that each one will go to a different company so that if one of the recurring payments is stopped one of their other companies can steal instead. Its planned fraud by total criminals out to cheat people and is a very very sophisticated scam which utilises lies and deception

Some of the UK comanies involved in this fraud are

Surrey Beauty Products Ltd
Phoenix Labs UK Corporation Ltd
Multi Vita Labs Ltd
Beach Ready Ltd
Nutrition First Ltd
Superior Nutrional Ltd
Evident Health Ltd
Healthy Essentials Ltd
First To Market Ltd
TTK Health Solutions Ltd

Some are in the name of Gabriele Yotvak Kariti and Odede Kariti who have indeed been involved with organised crime, money laundering and drug smuggling. They are listed at companies house as "Businessmen" based in USA. Others have as a director Asadullah Khan listed at companies house as a "Businessmen" based in Canada.

If the bank is not stopping them based upon the directors pasts they are aiding money laundering, fraud and drug smuggling and organised crime . This is NOT a small scam, I believe the only way to operate this scam of this scale which is running in USA, Australia and UK is as a large organised crime gang with a purpose beyond simply scamming money for healthfood products

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