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  • pink_princess
    pink_princess Posts: 13,581 Forumite
    And we were told MSE wouldn't change after the buy out.
    Life is short, smile while you still have teeth :D
  • Sooler
    Sooler Posts: 3,113 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/site/terms-conditions

    7. Your content
    7.1 Just so that you know, you own any copyright in the text that you post to our forums. However, when you post text, you expressly grant us a perpetual, unlimited free licence to republish that text on our site and to redistribute/make available and/or sell that text in print or electronic form anywhere in the world as part of an edited compilation or otherwise. We may automatically track certain contextual links in your forum posts, whether through Skimlinks or through our own technology. See our Skimlinks & affiliated links factsheet for more details.


    However, a users MSE forum name isn't text posted by a user as post text. Therefor putting a MSE users forum name on Twitter may violate the MSE T&C.

    Compo anyone?
  • HPoirot
    HPoirot Posts: 1,022 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker Stoptober Survivor
    Corporate greed over reason I'm afraid. Who would want the tales on this board to plastered all over twitter, who wants their personal life going viral?
  • itsanne
    itsanne Posts: 5,001 Forumite
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    HPoirot wrote: »
    Corporate greed over reason I'm afraid. Who would want the tales on this board to plastered all over twitter, who wants their personal life going viral?

    Sara Crewe?
    . . .I did not speak out

    Then they came for me
    And there was no one left
    To speak out for me..

    Martin Niemoller
  • Soleil_lune
    Soleil_lune Posts: 1,247 Forumite
    I think people need to get things in perspective here. For a start, are people really so naive as to think that the things they post here are not visible to anyone else in the whole wide world - ever? I have searched for a certain something on google MANY times, and posts and threads from THIS forum have popped up again and again and again. I mean, it happens quite a lot. It happens when I am not logged in, and so that means it would happen to many other people too.. even people who are not members of MSE, and possibly never usually go there.

    Nobody is any more likely to be 'stalking' people on here - or be any more interested in their posts and threads, than they were before this MSE community account went onto twitter. Even if there was a link to a certain thread from here on twitter, it's not going to cause any more issues than it would if it was only on here, because only people interested in the MSE site would follow that twitter community account!

    And anyone not following MSE'S twitter account would not get to see the posts, unless they specifically looked at their twitter account, and if they do THAT then what is to stop them looking at this website? This isn't some personal private 'paid up' members only club you know: this is a PUBLIC internet forum, where anybody can read anybody's posts and threads at any time.

    And does anybody on here actually use their 'real name?' as their account name anyway? And even if they did, you would be no more vulnerable on twitter as you are here, for reasons I explained above. ^^^

    Calm down. :cool:
  • Acc72
    Acc72 Posts: 1,528 Forumite
    And does anybody on here actually use their 'real name?' as their account name anyway? And even if they did, you would be no more vulnerable on twitter as you are here, for reasons I explained above. ^^^

    Calm down. :cool:

    The concern is that if a person has a Twitter account / Facebook account under their own name and an account on MSE under a pseudenym, could they be linked therefore identifying the person ?

    Some people may post certain things under their own name, and only be comfortable posting other details anonymously.

    eg. if you log onto your Twitter account under your real name, will all your posts under "Soleil lune" also show up or somehow be linked ?

    The official answer will probably be "no", however I am not too sure - as soon as somebody has made a post on a website, Twitter, Facebook or whatever then that comment exists and can be linked to an IP adress (which can then be linked to other posts etc.).
  • Soleil_lune
    Soleil_lune Posts: 1,247 Forumite
    edited 10 October 2013 at 12:03PM
    Acc72 wrote: »
    The concern is that if a person has a Twitter account / Facebook account under their own name and an account on MSE under a pseudenym, could they be linked therefore identifying the person ?

    Some people may post certain things under their own name, and only be comfortable posting other details anonymously.

    eg. if you log onto your Twitter account under your real name, will all your posts under "Soleil lune" also show up or somehow be linked ?

    The official answer will probably be "no", however I am not too sure - as soon as somebody has made a post on a website, Twitter, Facebook or whatever then that comment exists and can be linked to an IP adress (which can then be linked to other posts etc.).

    Well I see what you mean, but at the same time, I don't use the name soleil-lune ANYwhere else but on here... And I would wager that most people here do not use the same name on here as on twitter and facebook either... One reason is that I would not want people I know recognising me on here, but also I don't want people on HERE to try and track me down on twitter and facebook etc.

    I guess if someone has an account on here with the name Jane-Z, and that is their name on twitter then yes, they could be linked, but surely they should have/would have known that there's a possibility of being tracked down and the two accounts linked anyway, without MSE having a twitter community account?

    Why join a site (like MSE) in order to discuss personal and sensitive issues (like financial or relationship issues) and use the name you use on facebook and/or twitter, if you don't want people you know to see your posts on here? That would be foolish, and is more than likely to result in people seeing you, even if this MSE community account 'didn't' exist on twitter.

    MSE is a massively popular site, widely advertised, and millions of people look at it, so as I mentioned, people are very naive if they think that what they post on here remains on here only. As I said, I have googled certain issues many times and a thread from 'this' forum has come up. Also, as I said, do they think that people who they know, may never ever come on this site?

    Upshot is, people are making a massive fuss about this, but IF they have used the same name on twitter and facebook as they do here, they are no more vulnerable now with the new MSE twitter community than they were before. As I said, people will only see the posts and threads from here, if they are interested in MSE anyway, as only people 'following' the MSE community account will see the posts and 'they' will most likely be people who come here.

    I am not trying to be funny or anything, but I do think people are fretting and worrying too much about this.
  • Acc72
    Acc72 Posts: 1,528 Forumite
    Well I see what you mean, but at the same time, I don't use the name soleil-lune ANYwhere else but on here... And I would wager that most people here do not use the same name on here as on twitter and facebook either... One reason is that I would not want people I know recognising me on here, but also I don't want people on HERE to try and track me down on twitter and facebook etc.

    That is exactly the point I am trying to make.

    I guess that you use the same PC (and therefore same IP adress) to log onto MSE, Twitter, Facebook etc. ?

    Have you noticed how your PC can "customise" itself in relation to other websites that you have previously visited ?

    What if you log onto Twitter one day and it automatically links to your MSE account ?
  • Soleil_lune
    Soleil_lune Posts: 1,247 Forumite
    edited 10 October 2013 at 12:28PM
    Acc72 wrote: »
    That is exactly the point I am trying to make.

    I guess that you use the same PC (and therefore same IP adress) to log onto MSE, Twitter, Facebook etc. ?

    Have you noticed how your PC can "customise" itself in relation to other websites that you have previously visited ?

    What if you log onto Twitter one day and it automatically links to your MSE account ?

    I can't see this happening

    My point though, is that if you DO use the same name on here as on twitter and facebook, you have already made yourself vulnerable to being 'tracked down,' before MSE made a community account on twitter, especially as MSE is a massively popular site and is widely advertised. If you use a different name and password etc, on here to what you use on twitter, then I don't see how you can 'accidently' sign into twitter instead of here. I have never done it.

    I am not remotely worried anyway, and I have twitter, facebook AND an account here of course. I cannot see anybody knowing who I am on twitter and facebook by what I post on here.

    I can't really say much more than that, and it is just my opinion, but like I said, I think people are worrying for nothing. But if they 'are' worried and upset, then contact admin here and explain why, and see what they say.
  • Sooler
    Sooler Posts: 3,113 Forumite
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    T&Cs are T&Cs

    Posting on MSE you agree to your post text appearing with your username.
    MSE may republish your post text.

    But you haven't agreed to your post text being republished with your username. Nor have you agreed to MSE granting republishing rights to third parties.

    Once republished to Twitter, I expect Twitter also have a clause that they can republish content.

    MSE T&C do not say that you agree to third parties republishing your post text.

    MSE republishing to a third party whose T&Cs infer that MSE grant them the right to republish violates the MSE T&Cs
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