Successful complaints about private parking tickets - how to get them cancelled!

NeilCr

Umkomaas wrote: »

Often it can be the local manager a bit p1ssed off with a small number of fly parkers, who, after a visitation from a PPC 'suit', offering free dispatch of the small clutch of cars giving him his problem, leaps at their offer.

Problem is, not being the sharpest blade in the knife drawer, and seduced by the 'free' deal he's done with a 'big' parking enforcer, doesn't realise that his next move to save his store will cost him a quarter of a million!

Then wonder why he won't help his customers out! Shafted!

Again, though, I can find nothing that supports the view that PPCs are losing supermarkets customers. Given your greater knowledge and experience of this subject can you point me in the right direction as you have done with the Somerfield case. I've outlined the reasons for supermarket losses that I found in my previous post.

In terms of your local store --- well just wait out the contract, if you have to. But are you sure about a quarter of a million? I know the Somerfield case was a long time ago but it did involve 17 stores.

Umkomaas

In the alternative, show me any supermarket where their deployment of a PPC has actually improved their profits! Equally difficult - but just read their figures.

However, there's no supermarket appearing here to defend their position, despite them being aware of the forum's involvement in their store's implicit harassment of their own customers (think Aldi, Asda, Tesco, Lidl, Morrison's, Sainsbury, Waitrose ..... et al), yet hundreds of customers, clearly distressed, the vast majority of whom have, at worst, committed but a minor discretion, not affecting the retailer, yet are likely never to return to them.

Prove me wrong!

Coupon-mad

I think many retail parks have no choice - I blame the local authority for including a term in the Planning Permission, that such places 'must' have 'parking controls', whether they need the parasites or not.

Some new residential developments also have the same trashy imposition thrown at them from the outset, whether they need it or not. And they do not.

Conversely, one of the biggest retail parks round here does not use a PPC and never has, and whilst it is choc-a bloc at Christmas at least no-one has to worry about overstaying, as there is no time limit.

Must have more relaxed planning permission from West Sussex County Council, than most.

NeilCr

Umkomaas wrote: »

In the alternative, show me any supermarket where their deployment of a PPC has actually improved their profits

Prove me wrong!

But I've never claimed that PPCs improve their profits so nothing for me to prove.

:money::money:

You, on the other hand, are stating that PPCs are a reason for decline in supermarkets customers so I rather believe the onus is on you to do the proving

:beer::beer:

Umkomaas

Coupon-mad wrote: »

I think many retail parks have no choice - I blame the local authority for including a term in the Planning Permission, that such places 'must' have 'parking controls', whether they need the parasites or not.

One of the biggest retail parks round here does not use a PPC and never has, and whilst it is choc-a bloc at Christmas at least no-one has to worry about overstaying, as there is no time limit.

Turkeys forced to embrace Christmas, whether they like it or not.

NeilCr

Coupon-mad wrote: »

I think many retail parks have no choice - I blame the local authority for including a term in the Planning Permission, that such places 'must' have 'parking controls', whether they need the parasites or not.

Some new residential developments also have the same trashy imposition thrown at them from the outset, whether they need it or not. And they do not.

Conversely, one of the biggest retail parks round here does not use a PPC and never has, and whilst it is choc-a bloc at Christmas at least no-one has to worry about overstaying, as there is no time limit.

Must have more relaxed planning permission from West Sussex County Council, than most.

Retail parks are a different animal. Ours is a nightmare - the main parking is free but some parts have parking restrictions and it confuses the hell out of anyone who doesn't know it well. Gets a kicking on TripAdvisor. It's set up for people to stay the day (restaurants cinema, casino, pubs etc) so IMHO it should be completely free.

That's interesting re new residential developments. I hadn't heard that and agree with you that it shouldn't be imposed. I know that our council severely restricted the number of parking spaces on our estate - the developer wanted more. Crazy with the nightmare parking in the town, already!,

Umkomaas

You, on the other hand, are stating that PPCs are a reason for decline in supermarkets customers so I rather believe the onus is on you to do the proving

Would you return to a supermarket, where you've spent tens of thousands over the years, yet just copped a £100 'fine' because your car's wheel has touched a white line as a result of a Mitsubishi Animal encroaching into your parking spot, yet the store won't lift a finger to help you?

Every one who doesn't return costs the retailer.

Coupon-mad

There are certainly retail outlets near me that I boycott purely due to IPC firm infestation. I will not drive there and they do not have my business, and our family spend a small fortune on some of the things they sell. Just not spent with them.

NeilCr

Umkomaas wrote: »

Would you return to a supermarket, where you've spent tens of thousands over the years, yet just copped a £100 'fine' because your car's wheel has touched a white line as a result of a Mitsubishi Animal encroaching into your parking spot, yet the store won't lift a finger to help you?

Every one who doesn't return costs the retailer.

Aah you are on to straw men now. Still no facts or articles to support your assertion?

If you use the same supermarket for a number of years it is pretty likely that you know the "rules". I do in the one I use. So fairly unlikely to get caught out (not impossible I know)

If I did get a ticket then unless I was dealt with very horribly I'd go back. As I said in a previous response to you on gyms tickets are transient - using the best gym/supermarket for many is a bit more permanent and important.

In response to your straw man I'd be a bit p""""d off and I'd kick up a stink but I wouldn't cut off my nose to spite my face. My supermarket is the best around and the nearest so I'd be back there.

As we are in straw man territory. Would you go back if you had parked completely across two bays, comfortably in excess of the allotted time, had not even used the supermarket and had been dealt with politely by the supermarket staff? Who knows you might even tell your friends that you were impressed with the way your complaint had been handled and they might go there....

And, a bit more seriously. I just think that if the use of PPCs by supermarkets had a significant impact on their trade we would have heard about it by now. The perceived wisdom does seem to be that supermarket visits have been hit by internet shopping - and also that the "budget" supermarkets have taken a chunk of business from the others.

NeilCr

Coupon-mad wrote: »

There are certainly retail outlets near me that I boycott purely due to IPC firm infestation. I will not drive there and they do not have my business, and our family spend a small fortune on some of the things they sell. Just not spent with them.

And I (honestly) admire your stance.

But, the vast majority of people don't have the same strong views as you (and a few others here) on PPCs. As I've said elsewhere you only need to see the number of folks who come to this forum and then disappear again. It's a (major for some) annoyance at the time but it gets forgotten and they will want to go back to their favourite shop/restaurant/gym etc