Jml doktor power oven cleaner..oven exploded help!

keyser666

lucy03 wrote: »

I'm not sure that this is reasonable. If someone used the product on their sofa then I think it's reasonable not to expect the manufacturer to have to specifically mention this is a bad idea. However, if the product is unsuitable for part of the product it was designed to clean then IMO this should be made entirely clear.

When buying a product I'd personally expect it to tell me (i) can I use it on the glass area of the oven and (ii) would I have to cover the glass area when cleaning the oven to protect it if it isn't suitable for the glass.

I hear you but this is caustic cleaning so not the norm. You would not use any caustic substances on glass, if that was the case why arent there glass cleaners using this solution? Think common sense should prevail here but it hasnt

Azari

keyser666 wrote: »

I hear you but this is caustic cleaning so not the norm. You would not use any caustic substances on glass, if that was the case why arent there glass cleaners using this solution? Think common sense should prevail here but it hasnt

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

You are correct that common sense is severely lacking.

There are two common substances used for the sides of modern day domestic ovens: metal and glass.

Common sense would tell us that if a product designed to be used in something that commonly include glass in its construction was inimical to glass, the manufacturer, mindful of the thousands of complaints and demands for compensation he or she would receive if the product were misused, would mention this fact very, very, clearly.

It seems that such basic common sense is, as you say, lacking, particularly amongst certain member of this forum who seem to believe that the manufacturer could just vaguely tell people to enquire if they were not sure (which, apart from anything else, would lead to thousands of phone calls per week from people checking). This, they seem to think, would be preferable to simply stating: "do not use on glass".

keyser666

Azari wrote: »

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

You are correct that common sense is severely lacking.

There are two common substances used for the sides of modern day domestic ovens: metal and glass.

Common sense would tell us that if a product designed to be used in something that commonly include glass in its construction was inimical to glass, the manufacturer, mindful of the thousands of complaints and demands for compensation he or she would receive if the product were misused, would mention this fact very, very, clearly.

It seems that such basic common sense is, as you say, lacking, particularly amongst certain member of this forum who seem to believe that the manufacturer could just vaguely tell people to enquire if they were not sure (which, apart from anything else, would lead to thousands of phone calls per week from people checking). This, they seem to think, would be preferable to simply stating: "do not use on glass".

Well when my house and car windows get greasy and grimey from hand prints and the like and need a clean I will use Doktor Power Oven Cleaner on it because ovens commonly have glass so it must fricking work, even though it says it is only for use on Steel and enamel.

Azari

keyser666 wrote: »

Well when my house and car windows get greasy and grimey from hand prints and the like and need a clean I will use Doktor Power Oven Cleaner on it because ovens commonly have glass so it must fricking work, even though it says it is only for use on Steel and enamel.

I know you think you are being funny/clever, but, in fact, your logic is (presumably unintentionally) sound. :T

shaun_from_Africa

Azari wrote: »

Common sense would tell us that if a product designed to be used in something that commonly include glass in its construction was inimical to glass, the manufacturer, mindful of the thousands of complaints and demands for compensation he or she would receive if the product were misused, would mention this fact very, very, clearly.

Common sense would also tell us to ensure that the directions are very closely followed when using a caustic or acidic substance such as the one in question.

These directions stated that the product should be removed using warm soapy water, something which it appears that the OP didn't do as they stated they used a hose to do the job.

Azari

shaun_from_Africa wrote: »

Common sense would also tell us to ensure that the directions are very closely followed when using a caustic or acidic substance such as the one in question.

These directions stated that the product should be removed using warm soapy water, something which it appears that the OP didn't do as they stated they used a hose to do the job.

I think this has all been well covered.

No real need to keep going over old ground.

I think pretty much everyone is agreed that the damage was not caused by the cleaner, anyway.

There is just a residual problem with people who are completely clueless about SOGA making nonsensical posts that might confuse others as to its implications.

keyser666

Azari wrote: »

I think this has all been well covered.

No real need to keep going over old ground.

I think pretty much everyone is agreed that the damage was not caused by the cleaner, anyway.

There is just a residual problem with people who are completely clueless about SOGA making nonsensical posts that might confuse others as to its implications.

Hopefully not inferring me confusing SOGA?

mariechrisbulll

shaun_from_Africa wrote: »

Common sense would also tell us to ensure that the directions are very closely followed when using a caustic or acidic substance such as the one in question.

These directions stated that the product should be removed using warm soapy water, something which it appears that the OP didn't do as they stated they used a hose to do the job.

The OP did wash it off with soapy water then used a hose to thoroughly rinse as my sink is a normal size sink and it all didnt fit in to rinse ...

Op has also been perpetrated as been thick .. Well maybe I am .. I'm a 28 yr old who maybe should of known better i was dead chuffed when I'd done it was beautiful the whole explosion has scared me to even use the oven :-(

Azari

mariechrisbulll wrote: »

The OP did wash it off with soapy water then used a hose to thoroughly rinse as my sink is a normal size sink and it all didnt fit in to rinse ...

Op has also been perpetrated as been thick .. Well maybe I am .. I'm a 28 yr old who maybe should of known better i was dead chuffed when I'd done it was beautiful the whole explosion has scared me to even use the oven :-(

No, you're not thick.

I'm afraid there is a small gang of people on this forum who just live to be able to put people down. It's very sad but, really, you should probably feel sorry for them as they must have rather sad lives to feel the need to patronise people on a web site to give their egos a little boost.

I'm sure one or two of them will be along to dismiss this comment but it is undeniably true as a quick look through the posts here will show.

Of course, it's incredibly easy to be 'wise after the event', but from what I can see you did nothing even remotely silly. (Provided you didn't go banging the door against the walls as you took it out to wash it ).

I would suspect that the most likely cause of the damage (assuming no knocks on anything hard) was changes in the mounts that are attached to the door (caused by heat cycling during its life) that resulted in excessive stress that was aggravated by the removal of the door.

You attacked the task in a perfectly sensible manner, fully in line with the instructions and just got unlucky.

keyser666

Azari wrote: »

No, you're not thick.

I'm afraid there is a small gang of people on this forum who just live to be able to put people down. It's very sad but, really, you should probably feel sorry for them as they must have rather sad lives to feel the need to patronise people on a web site to give their egos a little boost.

I'm sure one or two of them will be along to dismiss this comment but it is undeniably true as a quick look through the posts here will show.

Of course, it's incredibly easy to be 'wise after the event', but from what I can see you did nothing even remotely silly. (Provided you didn't go banging the door against the walls as you took it out to wash it ).

I would suspect that the most likely cause of the damage (assuming no knocks on anything hard) was changes in the mounts that are attached to the door (caused by heat cycling during its life) that resulted in excessive stress that was aggravated by the removal of the door.

You attacked the task in a perfectly sensible manner, fully in line with the instructions and just got unlucky.

Again another thinly veiled comment, again hopefully not referring to me amongst that as I dont put people down on here. My point was merely I have used the product from experience and view the instructions very differently and have never used it on the glass. My posts were not to dig, far from it. It is all down to interpreptation, mine is obviously different to the OP's.