Do I have rights to a satellite dish?

seven-day-weekend

J_i_m wrote: »

Yes, I was just about to say that from the first reply onwards this thread has been a bit "Daily Mail" and "Jeremy Kyle" hasn't it?

Whilst describing a satellite dish as a "Human Right" may be stretching things a little bit and I would suggest alternative methods of receiving the media they seek, I see no harm in the OP retaining links with home and teaching their children of their cultural inheritage.

It's not like they're forcing it upon other people is it? Have people not heard of the value of diversity?

Neither do I, but people lay into British expats in Spain who do it. Consistency please!

They will need planning permission for their satellite dish.

GwylimT

If you approach the council you may be allowed a dish, often doing it in secret is the biggest problem, I also live in a flat that I own and in my contract it states that satellite dishes aren't allowed, however, if you ask, you are given permission to have on installed on the roof where it isn't visible from the ground.

Now, does your contract state that you cannot install satellite dish on the property, or the building? If it says building you can put a satellite dish on your balcony if you have one and if your balcony faces in the right direction.

You may find there are different societies in your area, I grew up in Germany and so I often look for German societies, this allows me to mix with other Germans and means if I wanted to I could easily find someone in the local area who received German television channels. This will also give language opportunities to your children, as they will be able to speak your language with other people and most likely other children.

Now, many channels are available legitimately on the internet, however many flats have pretty poor internet so it might be an idea to see how reliable things like 4od on are your internet before committing to an online television subscription.

propertyman

theartfullodger wrote: »

There was a ECHR case regarding a Swedish case which IIRC ruled satellite dish was a human right.!

Well not quite , as I explained earlier- it was predicted on an outright refusal and refusing to consider a viable alternative- all explained earlier. :cool:

I am not contradicting Artful, just concerned that the post would be read willfully as in " I have a right, full stop" when thats not correct.:A

propertyman

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

Neither do I, but people lay into British expats in Spain who do it. Consistency please!

They will need planning permission for their satellite dish.

That made me laugh as just yesterday I was thinking about some here, the Guardian and Socialist Worker readers, who scorn the "Daily Mail readers".

They think that what a wonderfull multicutural Britian while looking down their noses at the fish 'n chips 'n football brigade in Spain for not integrating.:rotfl:

propertyman

J_i_m wrote: »

It's not like they're forcing it upon other people is it? Have people not heard of the value of diversity?

Yes it is as they are. When you cannot say hello to your neighbour as they are not allowed to talk to other men, and reinforcing the use of a foreign language reducing and hampering communication.

These multi cultural communites, and their values and ethics are increasingly inward looking, and more distant from, if not judeo christian ones but secular ones.

In the sector we work in it iincreasingly difficult to deal with residents of social housing in the east end of London firstly due to language barriers and a refusal to deal with a man and secondly the increasing demand for arrangements for "women" only.

Filling your house via Sat TV with "home" only reinforces that.

In many ways its going back to the 50's ( at best ) " oh no you'll have to speak or wait to my husband".

Davesnave

propertyman wrote: »

These multi cultural communites, and their values and ethics are increasingly inward looking, and more distant from, if not judeo christian ones but secular ones.

Surely, if a community is genuinely multi-cultural, it will be diverse, not of one kind and inward-looking?

I think you mean the opposite of what you've written.

propertyman

Davesnave wrote: »

Surely, if a community is genuinely multi-cultural, it will be diverse, not of one kind and inward-looking?

I think you mean the opposite of what you've written.

Not at all I have written on the basis of experience.

We claim to be muticultural but in doing so the fact is the opposite, it is becoming segregated and isolationist- inward looking.

What is rapidly developing is a series of parallel cultures with increasing less crossover in terms of dealings and ideas.

In the case of Islam in the areas I refer to it is not an increasing number of muslims but the increasing number of those with covered faces, not just heads.

As a member of my staff found in a car accident the woman refused to roll down her window or engage, as she is not permitted to and would only speak to a WPC.

The driver was british born.

Davesnave

propertyman wrote: »

Not at all I have written on the basis of experience.

So have I. The area where I lived in London was genuinely multi-cultural and I liked the fact that it was so. It was similar to the atmosphere on some allotments in a city I lived in later on, where people shared their practical & cultural experience in a shared activity. They didn't tend to do that so much elsewhere in the town.

I think you have given a particular meaning the term 'multi-cultural,' which it didn't have originally, but then, like 'ethnic,' it's been used incorrectly and often in a derogatory manner for some time.

Perhaps this is an illustration of the way words come to mean whatever most people want them to mean.

2ran

First of all thank you all for the answers which were helpful.

Now seeing as its been a major talking point. I am from Switzerland, A skilled engineer and I do not claim benefits, I also pay UK tax something which I don't need to do had I of "stayed home" (My country don't pay tax). I came here asking for simple help and in return I get abusive messages telling me to "go back home", "assimilate myself" and to stop claiming benefits.

How many people here on their holidays to Spain or Portugal tune into their local teams matches on sky or their favourite sitcom?

k12479

2ran wrote: »

(My country don't pay tax).

Would you not be paying federal, canton and commune tax back home?

If you're from Switzerland, you are probably aware of the issue of immigrant integration, particularly as CH has been in the news this month for effectively segregating asylum seekers, and while some comments are a bit harsh, your question hit a raw nerve for a lot of people, originating due to the 'human rights' aspect.

[btw like you I'm highly skilled and am currently and have been an immigrant in 3 countries, can't say I've ever had a problem anywhere but do dislike those who refuse to accept the way of life of their host country]