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Do I have rights to a satellite dish?

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  • theartfullodger
    theartfullodger Posts: 15,693 Forumite
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    There was a ECHR case regarding a Swedish case which IIRC ruled satellite dish was a human right.


    Do we think the original (illegal immigrant) English demanding the indigenous inhabitants spoke English rather than British (=Welsh, ish..) were also banging on about being allowed their cultural wass-names?

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  • Two brief points.

    1. When I lived in Germany, I met a few savvy expat Brits. We were on the Western side, and apparently the thing to do was to order a sky box and point the satellite in the right direction. Apparently it was illegal from the Sky point of view since one was out of the country, however when it comes to Corrie and the like, needs must. I doubt the Germans would have tolerated a human rights issue on this front.

    2. My (UK white, native born) friend put up a dish on his rented (not council) property and was issued a warning by his housing association--dishes were not allowed. Either you plug into what is on offer (and apparently his carp football team was not), or you go without. It was in the lease upon signing so he had to make do with the internet tele.

    As someone who is fluent in multiple languages and lived outside my native culture for 10+ years and counting, I can appreciate the want to see your 'own' tele, in particular with children and language skills. At the same time, when I was an American in Germany, I would never have remotely dreamed that I had any right to see my home country's tele.

    Curious OP for further feedback--disregarding any negative feedback here, but help us to understand what we're missing?
  • Curious OP for further feedback--disregarding any negative feedback here, but help us to understand what we're missing?

    I'd be surprised if the OP came back given some of the responses here.

    This is where they may have got the idea, everybodies favourite haterag™
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2023359/Having-satellite-dish-human-right-says-European-court.html

    OP, I second (third?) the suggestion to watch TV online. It might be fiddly to set up but I'm sure there are guides on how to do so. And it should be free too. Wish I could be of more help.
  • pinkshoes
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    edited 24 August 2013 at 9:51AM
    There is no human right to have a satellite dish. Someone was winding you up!

    Your options are:

    1. Watch on the internet where most foreign stations seem to broadcast.

    2. Sell, then buy something freehold that does allow ugly satellite dishes!
    Should've = Should HAVE (not 'of')
    Would've = Would HAVE (not 'of')

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  • theartfullodger
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    sinbad182 wrote: »
    Moneyistooshorttomention - you're not exactly known for getting facts straight and being particularly open minded towards minority groups yourself.....

    Don't think that's called for ..
  • moneyistooshorttomention
    moneyistooshorttomention Posts: 17,940 Forumite
    edited 23 August 2013 at 7:49PM
    Crikey!

    I did have to check the date on that article to see that it wasnt some sort of April Fools Day spoof.

    How blimmin' ridiculous to think that people buying listed buildings would have to conform to all sorts of keeping the building looking authentic and at noticeable cost to themselves and then the whole effect could be ruined by one little person demanding a supposed Human Right to muck the whole thing up by putting up a satellite dish to suit themselves personally. "Yep....Mavis...that's a lovely row of listed houses there...how gorgeous...but No. 10 let it out to a spoilt brat tenant who demanded to be able to ruin the whole thing by putting up a satellite dish"....you can see it now....

    ....and the dafter blimmin' thing is public time and money getting spent on dealing with things like this..:mad:

    As an earlier poster said "They really should try thinking just how many (genuine) human rights people haven't got in countries like Syria" before whinging about some little luxury they believe they have a right to have.

    Obviously someone is quite possibly perfectly entitled to bring up some trival personal thing like this and then wait and see just how well they (don't) get on with their neighbours....but lets just hope commonsense prevails.
  • It certainly has. I don't think having access to your preferred satellite tv service is a human rights issue (and think it's a bit disgusting for people to try to claim it is) but equally I don't think 'go back to where you come from' is an appropriate response to the OP.

    Well I'd say that perhaps people are irritated because the OP seems to want to keep their family in touch with their country of origins culture when living and benefiting from ours. I kind of think if you are going to live in another country you should fit in. My wife is from brazil and has literally no contact with their TV or media because she wants to live British believe it or not she even talks to her family in English forgetting Portuguese. That's how people should integrate themselves not by ignoring the rules (very in British) then crying about human rights.
  • Cissi
    Cissi Posts: 1,131 Forumite
    MaxTheCat wrote: »
    I kind of think if you are going to live in another country you should fit in. My wife is from brazil and has literally no contact with their TV or media because she wants to live British believe it or not she even talks to her family in English forgetting Portuguese.

    How sad :( Sounds like she's making some serious sacrifices for your sake and one can only hope that this works out in the long term. If you end up having children and she doesn't speak her mother tongue with them then they will miss out on an amazing opportunity. You know, it's possible to fit in without selling out and missing out on the incredible advantages that a multi-cultural upbringing bring. I have a number of Brazilian friends and can't imagine any of them deliberately forgetting their background like that. Personally I'm originally from a Northern European country, and my (English-speaking) DH is incredibly supportive when it comes to keeping our children's (oh dear!) foreign heritage alive, as he thankfully sees it as something positive.

    OP, I really hope that you manage to find a way to share some of your culture with your children, even if it isn't possible to install a satellite dish. I agree with previous posters who have suggested looking into streaming TV programmes over the internet - it's probably worth investigating this rather than trying to win a dispute to install a satellite dish.

    And please don't take the Daily Mail comments to heart - thankfully this country has so much more to offer, which is why I still feel that it's the best place in the world to live for somebody looking for a bit of cultural mix!
  • Davesnave
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    MaxTheCat wrote: »
    Well I'd say that perhaps people are irritated because the OP seems to want to keep their family in touch with their country of origins culture when living and benefiting from ours.

    Yes, when moving abroad, us Brits would never behave like that! :rotfl:
  • J_i_m
    J_i_m Posts: 1,342 Forumite
    Cissi wrote: »
    And please don't take the Daily Mail comments to heart - thankfully this country has so much more to offer, which is why I still feel that it's the best place in the world to live for somebody looking for a bit of cultural mix!

    Yes, I was just about to say that from the first reply onwards this thread has been a bit "Daily Mail" and "Jeremy Kyle" hasn't it?

    Whilst describing a satellite dish as a "Human Right" may be stretching things a little bit and I would suggest alternative methods of receiving the media they seek, I see no harm in the OP retaining links with home and teaching their children of their cultural inheritage.

    It's not like they're forcing it upon other people is it? Have people not heard of the value of diversity?
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