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Do I have rights to a satellite dish?

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  • 2ran
    2ran Posts: 30 Forumite
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    I was just simplifying my answer. Too many people are using my question to express their political and personal opinions when all I wanted to know whether or not something was viable. If yes hurray I get a dish, if no oh well. I could just as easily as asked without all the extra details but then I would get people saying if there is a communal dish why do you need another etc. Also the first question the freeholders would have asked is WHY? I was simply thinking of one answer I could give but the way people pick up on small aspects and use that as the basis of their answers doesn't bode well.
  • Morglin
    Morglin Posts: 15,922 Forumite
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    Although, obviously, it's not a human right issue to have a satellite dish, there may be something to what the OP thinks.

    We live in a very small block of flats, served by a rooftop dish, that we all use, with no problems.

    Individual dishes are strictly forbidden, but one of the residents, a Turkish lady, stated that she needs a different dish to be able to obtain programmes for Turkey, and that it was her 'right' to have access to her culture.

    I don't know how she formally argued, and with whom exactly, but she was given permission, under these grounds, and her dish remains there, to this day.

    Lin :)
    You can tell a lot about a woman by her hands..........for instance, if they are placed around your throat, she's probably slightly upset. ;)
  • I do know that in France if you wish to have a satellite dish installed in, say, a communally owned block of flats, you have to write to the syndicate/copropriete that runs the building, requesting permission for the dish, quoting that it is your human right to have the dish.

    This will then be considered (usually a formality) and you will be granted permission. But it could take months to go through this process.

    So it is regarded as your human right in France!
  • googler
    googler Posts: 16,103 Forumite
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    edited 25 August 2013 at 10:48AM
    2ran wrote: »
    First of all thank you all for the answers which were helpful.

    You're welcome.


    I came here asking for simple help and in return I get abusive messages telling me to "go back home", "assimilate myself" and to stop claiming benefits.

    Well, since I seem to be the only one who's had a post edited by the mods as 'personal abuse', I'll point out to the mods in advance that the following are all either suggested alternatives, or questions for the OP (I've even highlighted these), not abuse.

    I suggested earlier (it was removed) that an alternative for your children was to read about your culture from books, rather than from piped-in TV. You know, take them to the library, visit a bookshop, that sort of thing. Isn't this an option for you?


    How many people here on their holidays to Spain or Portugal tune into their local teams matches on sky or their favourite sitcom?

    I'd suggest the majority on holiday watch the matches in commercial establishments such as sports bars where the Sky is pre-installed. I don't think they bolt a new dish onto the side of their apartment block.....

    However, since you're the one to draw comparisons with holidaymakers; are you on holiday here?
  • moneyistooshorttomention
    moneyistooshorttomention Posts: 17,940 Forumite
    edited 25 August 2013 at 2:22PM
    Well its entirely up to OP whether to stand on so-called "Human rights" as an excuse and try to break the rules everyone else has to abide by in the block.

    Or decide that they would prefer not to have everyone in their block making comments behind their back to effect of "Look at him....thinks he is special he does .....and wants to have something that us locals cant have. Don't think we want to know someone who thinks he is entitled to a better deal than we have".

    Entirely OP's decision as to whether he does or doesn't wish to get on with his neighbours obviously.

    He isn't asking to be treated the same as the rest of us. He is asking to be treated better than us.:( Personally, I don't believe in discrimination of any description .....and that includes positive discrimination (ie discrimination against us).
  • Davesnave
    Davesnave Posts: 34,741 Forumite
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    Googler, you weren't the only one to have a post 'mod-ified.'

    There was at least one other, which I replied to, and which was then removed, so I deleted my post in the interests of clarity.

    I think this thread shows the strength of MSE, in that a good range of opinions were expressed, though the ones which made it more balanced mostly came later.
  • propertyman
    propertyman Posts: 2,922 Forumite
    2ran wrote: »
    I was just simplifying my answer.
    Also the first question the freeholders would have asked is WHY? I was simply thinking of one answer I could give but the way people pick up on small aspects and use that as the basis of their answers doesn't bode well.

    I have offered my opinions

    but I offered my advice too as this is what I do- property.

    :money:Your request is a common one in London, for hotbird and other sats as low as 4 degrees, and the offer to pay for the addtional dish and connection to the communal system is normally accepted.

    It has nothing to do with human rights, which opened the door to the responses,the removal of the dish was that there was no consent sought nor any right to fit one on the exterior, which is, in most cases, someones else's wall.

    I wish you luck and I expect you will get a constructive answer as its a common question.:)
    Stop! Think. Read the small print. Trust nothing and assume that it is your responsibility. That way it rarely goes wrong.
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  • propertyman
    propertyman Posts: 2,922 Forumite
    Do you have a bit of patience??

    Wait 20 or 30 years & the technology will have developed and satellite dishes likely no longer required, or certainly not so bleedin' ugly..

    My dad, born 1903, said when he made his 1st radio it used a 30ft aerial up a tree in the road (Ladbroke Road, London). tempus fugit...

    When cable and sat were first introduced, I remember meeting BT and United Artists and BT who had the first system in London, explained that in most of the country, they could push 2 to 4 mb for a home which was ample for TV then, in the mid 80's.

    They werent allowed as they would have a monpoly and there was money to be made selling to cable tv companies. But then BT wouldn't in turn give up their telephone monoply to let them use the tp lines and all compete on an equal footing.
    Stop! Think. Read the small print. Trust nothing and assume that it is your responsibility. That way it rarely goes wrong.
    Actively hunting down the person who invented the imaginary tenure, "share freehold";
    if you can show me one I will produce my daughter's unicorn
  • pimento
    pimento Posts: 6,243 Forumite
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    Switzerland has a culture? Well who knew?
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