Neighbours from Hell

System

its just bad luck I think, you might get used to it?

moromir

jinty271 wrote:

I am not being dismissive about Noise Pollution per se, however I do not think that the (often) involuntary cries of a disabled child could be classed , or viewed, as such.

I'm not sure how the noise could be classed as anything else?

The noise is loud, instrusive, without warning and distressing to the occupier of a surrounding property, which I'm pretty sure meets the objective definition of noise pollution.

I totally see that the OP could have been more diplomatic in their initial approach but I also think shes been totally sandbagged by the PC brigade and I really think if she had said the noise was coming from any other source she would be receiving much better advice than she is currently getting on the thread.

Calien27

Going by the OP's post, the family in question haven't actually done anything, their drunk friend swore at them.

The OP seems to be the one looking for trouble here, going to various places and lodging (or trying to) complaints about the noise the child is making.

Hardly "neighbors from hell". They aren't having all night parties every weekend, or dealing drugs from the property or going about smashing things up.

samanthag

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That is how this post makes me feel.

I too am a mother to a disabled son who is very loud and this post disgusts me. Would you rather that little boy be shut in the house all day in front of the TV just so you can sit outside and eat some lunch !!!!!! how old are you?
Have a bit of compassion and grow up.

This young boy cannot help his situation but you can help your situation.

Why don't you have a bit of gumption and maybe go downstairs and introduce yourself to the parent/s and maybe ask them politely what is wrong with their little boy and get to know them and then you might understand a bit instead of judging !!!!!!

jinty271

Put it from a different perspective, hypothetically.


You are stuck in a 1-bedroom flat, with your severely disabled child. You are isolated from standard social occasions due to your caring responsibilities. You erect a gazebo in your little bit of garden space, and a friend comes over for a few beers, so you and your child can enjoy this lovely weather we have been having. Part of your child's condition includes emitting involuntary "noises", but why should they not enjoy some of the summer time. The noises the child makes at this time might even be an expression of joy - who knows ! You might even have a wee glass of wine to let your hair down a bit. After all, when you are caring 24/7, you deserve a tiny bit of down-time.

Then, just as soon as you start to relax a little,.the old busy-body from up the stairs, who thinks she owns the block 'cos she has bought, and you only rent, shouts down and pee's on your bonfire because your child is making a noise.


Just putting it out there, people.....

houseimprover

samanthag wrote: »

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

That is how this post makes me feel.

I too am a mother to a disabled son who is very loud and this post disgusts me. Would you rather that little boy be shut in the house all day in front of the TV just so you can sit outside and eat some lunch !!!!!! how old are you?
Have a bit of compassion and grow up.

This young boy cannot help his situation but you can help your situation.

Why don't you have a bit of gumption and maybe go downstairs and introduce yourself to the parent/s and maybe ask them politely what is wrong with their little boy and get to know them and then you might understand a bit instead of judging !!!!!!

Do you have compassion to the OP's situation?

jinty271

moromir wrote: »

I'm not sure how the noise could be classed as anything else?

The noise is loud, instrusive, without warning and distressing to the occupier of a surrounding property, which I'm pretty sure meets the objective definition of noise pollution.

I totally see that the OP could have been more diplomatic in their initial approach but I also think shes been totally sandbagged by the PC brigade and I really think if she had said the noise was coming from any other source she would be receiving much better advice than she is currently getting on the thread.

I am probably the least PC person you would ever meet, trust me.

However," pollution "implies filth, dirt, grime, nuisance.

None of which should ever be directed toward a child, of any ability, IMHO.

moromir

jinty271 wrote:

Put it from a different perspective, hypothetically.
You are stuck in a 1-bedroom flat, with your severely disabled child. You are isolated from standard social occasions due to your caring responsibilities. You erect a gazebo in your little bit of garden space, and a friend comes over for a few beers, so you and your child can enjoy this lovely weather we have been having. Part of your child's condition includes emitting involuntary "noises", but why should they not enjoy some of the summer time. The noises the child makes at this time might even be an expression of joy - who knows ! You might even have a wee glass of wine to let your hair down a bit. After all, when you are caring 24/7, you deserve a tiny bit of down-time.

Then, just as soon as you start to relax a little,.the old busy-body from up the stairs, who thinks she owns the block 'cos she has bought, and you only rent, shouts down and pee's on your bonfire because your child is making a noise.

Just putting it out there, people.....

Thats a stretch considering the OP specifically refers to two instances at night inclusing one at 1:30 AM and another in which the occupant's friend was so !!!!!!ed he couldn't even stand up.

MrsE_2

Isnt it awful that a family with a severly disabled child have to private rent a 1 bed flat.
I would expect the local authority to find them a larger, better accommodation. Like a 2 bed house or bungalow with a garden.

moromir

jinty271 wrote:

I am probably the least PC person you would ever meet, trust me.

However," pollution "implies filth, dirt, grime, nuisance.

None of which should ever be directed toward a child, of any ability, IMHO.

I think in this context you need to appreciate that "pollution" is the correct technical term that the council and police apply to the this kind of disturbance.

To apply any kind of personal perception to the term would be misguided.