Neighbours from Hell

Vicky123

I think people also need to look at the title OP chose, "Neighbours from Hell" I originally clicked this expecting all manner of hoolaginism, vandalism and the like, but she is actually giving that name to a family because they have a disabled child who makes involuntary noise! That's what offends her, not drunkeness.

supersaver2

Nicki wrote: »

But as has been pointed out many times already the child can't help the noises he makes and the parents can't prevent it or as tenants modify their flat in any way to muffle the noise. OP and others don't see why the OP should soundproof her own flat or take any self help steps. So other than the family being moved how does the problem get solved? And what prevents the same thing happening wherever the family is moved to, so they end up with no permanent home?

If you think OP shouldn't have to take any steps to help herself here then the only logical stance is that you think she is right in saying the family should be moved. I can't see what other middle ground there is

Although I suppose the family could guarantee that no adult will make any sound in the garden or house which will carry to OP's flat, including any guest. But as that isn't really OP's problem I don't think that is really what she's after.

Yes even saying all that I still don't think the OP is unreasonable or intolerant as she doesn't like hearing these loud noises! I wouldn't like it either, and I'm pretty sure most honest people wouldn't.

I never stated that the OP shouldn't take any steps to help herself, she will have to as far as I can see. The best situation here though is surely the family be rehomed when possible into a suitable building. How a 1 bedroom flat can be deemed acceptable is beyond me, yes a parent may need to be with the child at night, but surely taking turns and giving the other parent a break would be very beneficial and having a 2 bedroomed place would meet their needs so much better, I'll admit to not being in the known with housing benefits but are they not entitled to a 2 bed room rate with 3 people living there? I think if this isn't the case it's appalling. This family could be under pressure worrying about the neighbours, the neighbours are stressed with the noise, nobody is happy. If they aren't entitled to a 2 bedroom place then the only answer I can see is the OP selling up and hoping she can find a buyer.

poet123

supersaver2 wrote: »

No I don't agree with the OP ousting this family. I don't think her finding these noises hard to live with makes her intolerant or unreasonable though. Most people can see both sides, I just don't think the incident on their second night helped matters much.

Imagine that one of your neighbours did find the ambulance turning up for your daughter intolerable, (not beyond the bounds of possibility if Nicki's neighbours are representative) what would you do? What could you do?

supersaver2

poet123 wrote: »

Imagine that one of your neighbours did find the ambulance turning up for your daughter intolerable, (not beyond the bounds of possibility if Nicki's neighbours are representative) what would you do? What could you do?

I'm on good turns with all my neighbours. I'd pop round and apologise about the noise and flashing lights, after that I couldn't do anything. Maybe the new tenants popping round to their new neighbours and explaining about the situation and noises may have helped the situation get off on a better footing.

poet123

supersaver2 wrote: »

I'm on good turns with all my neighbours. I'd pop round and apologise about the noise and flashing lights, after that I couldn't do anything. Maybe the new tenants popping round to their new neighbours and explaining about the situation and noises may have helped the situation get off on a better footing.

Exactly. So, despite all that you have said you realise that there comes a point when there is nothing that can be done because there is no solution.

Perhaps, but the content and tone of the OP didn't suggest that to me.

Nicki

supersaver2 wrote: »

I'm on good turns with all my neighbours. I'd pop round and apologise about the noise and flashing lights, after that I couldn't do anything. Maybe the new tenants popping round to their new neighbours and explaining about the situation and noises may have helped the situation get off on a better footing.

I wonder how big the block of flats is. My street most of the houses are divided into flats so even if I only went 10 houses in each direction and 10 across the road I'd have been knocking on over a hundred doors to explain my child gets transport to school.

I'm on good terms with the neighbours I know too but there are too many of them to know them all even by sight. Must be at least 200 properties on my road most split into multiple flats as I said.

paulsad

Try set of headphones plugged into a radio and listen to radio 4 or other - you'll soon get used to it - my better half has constant buzzing in her ears and this is the only thing that helps her sleep.

supersaver2

It does appear to me that people are determined to see the OP in the worst possible light, being called, selfish, horrible, intolerant etc. Making assumptions that fit their case. I really do understand the plight of the parents being in a similar situation with my wife and I can understand the OP's predicament. Some people seem so easy to offend on this forum and can't seem to see past their own situation. I'll bow out now as we are going round in circles and to many assumptions are being made to make this thread much use anymore.

poet123

supersaver2 wrote: »

It does appear to me that people are determined to see the OP in the worst possible light, being called, selfish, horrible, intolerant etc. Making assumptions that fit their case. I really do understand the plight of the parents being in a similar situation with my wife and I can understand the OP's predicament. Some people seem so easy to offend on this forum and can't seem to see past their own situation. I'll bow out now as we are going round in circles and to many assumptions are being made to make this thread much use anymore.

I don't have a "situation" that is relevant to this thread, so I am not sure where you are coming from with this. And you are as guilty as any of us of making assumptions.;)

Nicki

I think that must be directed at me then, though I haven't AFAIR called the OP selfish, intolerant or horrible, nor taken offence at anything super saver has said, though I have disagreed with some of it and explained why. I did find eskimo's post earlier offensive though and newbie troll whatever his name was