Neighbours from Hell

poet123

Errata wrote: »

There's something quite odd going on if a very vocal disabled child of seven is in a privately rented one bedroom flat with two parents.

Perhaps the child needs 24 hour care and a parent/both parents always sleep in the same room anyway? Maybe finances are very tight and they didn't see the need/haven't got the money to pay for an extra bedroom which wouldn't be used.

Far from ideal on many levels.

scooby088

Noise is noise wherever it comes from and why should OP have to move after all it is her home, just as much as it is the home of the family below, there is no easy answer to this problem. Maybe the OP could move but why should she?

I can truly see both sides in this debate, I have suffered from noisy neighbours and it does effect everyday life, loss of sleep does make life more stressful for all concerned. I think the OP should have used more considered words in the original post.

I don't see the OP as a ogre far from it, just a stressed out person having to live with the noise. OP have you contacted your local environmental health officer they would be best placed to advise you.

Vicky123

She is the one who is trying to get the family to move out, why should they?
I think she said somewhere this family have been with the agent for 7 yrs with no problem, that raises the question about the OP complaining, she would appear to have been unsuccessful in recruiting a neighbourhood posse, why? Lastly and most importantly though why are this family 7 years private renting, are they not entitled to council housing or are the council using a private agency?
If I imagined the 7 yrs history with the agent then just disregard all the above.

skintandscared_2

Norma_Desmond wrote: »

Not everyone is lucky enough to be able to afford a big semi detached or detached house miles from the nearest neighbours.........but everyone should be able to have at least relative peace in their own home.

Unacceptable noise is just that; from whatever source.

Is that too much to ask?

Who mentioned a BIG house? Even a small terraced house is more likely to offer one side that is quiet. The key is - nobody above or below.

skintandscared_2

Norma_Desmond wrote: »

Not everyone is lucky enough to be able to afford a big semi detached or detached house miles from the nearest neighbours.........but everyone should be able to have at least relative peace in their own home.

Unacceptable noise is just that; from whatever source.

Is that too much to ask?

Well honestly, yes it probably is too much to ask. Peace and quiet is lovely but it's not a right and it's not ever guaranteed is it! I don't know how many hundred babies are born in the UK every day, but they go home to houses with neighbours. It's life! Most people accept a level of noise, or realise that there is nothing illegal about a baby crying or a disabled child groaning, so they either make the best of it or move to somewhere where people can't live above or below them.

I used to own a ground floor flat and the flat above was rented to a local housing association. When a stream of single mothers with babies started being placed there for six months at a time I couldn't stand it so I MOVED OUT!

aliasojo

Vicky123 wrote: »

At what point did we decide this was all about one drunken comment from the friend? When did we drop all the disgraceful language and comments from the original post?

Actually I've thought from the beginning of this whole thread that the parents were not particularly worthy of the poor them comments that were being made.

Have a wee read back and just see how many 'oh the poor parents' type comments there are. There are many.

That's not to detract from the OP's unwise comments in any way. But not for one moment did I believe these were poor hard done to parents. I think they are as streetwise as they come.

Clearly I don't know these people but their behaviour just doesn't gel with they type of family behaviour I would expect given their child appears so disabled which is why I have formed the opinion I have.

I could of course be completely wrong, but I just don't believe in all honesty that I am.

aliasojo

Vicky123 wrote: »

I think she said somewhere this family have been with the agent for 7 yrs with no problem, that raises the question about the OP complaining....

Having been at the mercy of agents, I can hand on heart tell you they massage the truth.

I'm not categorically stating that is what they did in this case, just that experience has taught me to not simply take everything at face value.

Nicki

Errata wrote: »

There's something quite odd going on if a very vocal disabled child of seven is in a privately rented one bedroom flat with two parents.

It's a one bedroom flat not a studio flat. Lots and lots of families with not a lot of money and young children live in them, often with parents on a sofa bed in the living room and the child on the bedroom. If you think that's "odd" in some sinister sounding way, you've clearly led a very privileged life.

poet123

aliasojo wrote: »

Actually I've thought from the beginning of this whole thread that the parents were not particularly worthy of the poor them comments that were being made.

Have a wee read back and just see how many 'oh the poor parents' type comments there are. There are many.

That's not to detract from the OP's unwise comments in any way. But not for one moment did I believe these were poor hard done to parents. I think they are as streetwise as they come.

Clearly I don't know these people but their behaviour just doesn't gel with they type of family behaviour I would expect given their child appears so disabled which is why I have formed the opinion I have.

I could of course be completely wrong, but I just don't believe in all honesty that I am.

I read it the another way. The incident with the friend came on the second day they lived there. Maybe the friend had been helping with the move and at the end of a long day was having a drink in the garden (no excuse for bad language or falling down drunk) and was annoyed that a neighbour shouted down to them to keep it quiet.

Now, I could be wrong, but to me the OP comes across as very exacting, were they being so noisy, were they really drunk? Who knows. The mere fact that the child is being blamed for the noise to me suggests that the parents are not doing that much or the OP would not be slow to add their misdemeanours into the equation.;)

The OP is not (by her own account) elderly, but she is having MH issues and she is grieving. Add all those together and I think that although the noise may be not what she wants or is used to it may not be as bad as it is being portrayed.

I do have sympathy with the OP but I also detect a stamp feet, I have been here longer and I will not have this tone in her posts.

Sadly, in a one bed first floor flat you will always run the risk of having neighbours who do not share your outlook or your lifestyle. The flat below has a garden, so at some point a child or an animal seems to me to be a likely occupant. When viewing property it pays to consider all the angles before buying.

aliasojo

poet123 wrote: »

I read it the another way.

Well we shall have to agree to disagree on the parents. Not many parents with the responsibility of caring for a child so disabled would happily entertain drinking to the amount of falling down drunk. I think it illustrates 'type' if you like. (Yes I appreciate I'm judging here.)

Although I do agree with your take on the OP.